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High all.
Last night I was listening to U2's "All that you can't leave behind album" and one of Oasis's albums and I really enjoyed the sound quality on my M80. I think these albums have a pretty low DR range and are compressed!
I also have an album with a high DR range of around 16 and it just doesn't pull me in as much as some of my other albums!
I always used Audacity to measure spectrograms but now I just let my ears decide and not take to much notice of "measurements".
How do you feel about Dynamic Range, is it all in the head?
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Danny
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Poorly recorded music you like is better than well recorded music you hate.
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Steve.
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Higher DR versions of the same music definitely sound better. The original and re-issues of Off The Wall being a good example in my colelction. I do have a recording of an unsigned band that has a DR of 16 but sounds awful so it is certainly no guarantee. It is just one of many things that make a good recording.
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Just my 2 cents but high DR gives you the choice of turning up the volum The new ReMasters often has as low as DR 2-4 and the ofte peak over 0dB(Clipping). Many of the new discovery ReMaster of Pink Floyd has peak over 0dB (Clipping), I use IZotope RX2 advanced to check all tracks before importing into Sooloos. Using iZotope to DeClipp if possible. Before and after DeClipping About iZotope RX2 ![[Linked Image from farm8.staticflickr.com]](http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7209/6960369151_f449d37678_b.jpg) Her are some more info: Metalica Guitar Hero vs CD release Loundness War youtube
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The YouTube clip is a great clear simple explanation of the problem, it's a shame we are preaching to the converted here. cheers, Chris 
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High DR certainly isn't a guarantee, but low DR is a limiting factor on how good a recording can sound.
In my experience, low DR recordings can sound better than high DR recordings on small systems. And, at risk of an argument, I'd include the M80 as a small system.
Not that Duncan, the other one. No, not that one either.
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I had a great time yesterday on my M80.
I downloaded Audacity a few months back and I've been checking what Albums in my collection have been recorded loudly and which were recorded quietly (which had really high DR Range) and the Albums I was initially dissapointed with that had high DR Range I was suddenly astounded with after turning my volume up to around 78, 79.
The Albums that we're recorded very loudly i.e. "The Essential - The Clash" I turned volume down to around 62, 63 and was also astounded how good it sounded loads of little details and effects I was missing it out on because I was initially playing it way to loud, by turning it down it seems less is more with Albums recorded loudly.
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Danny
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Now I'm wondering what 3200's sound like.
Surely not twice as good as an M80?
Regards
Danny
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Danny, be warned - a question like that starts very innocently. Several years later and many �'000's later you'll wonder why you ever asked it 
Rgds,
Nick
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Yep I can imagine. I suspect a lot of discipline is needed from me pretty soon! Regards Danny
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Now I'm wondering what 3200's sound like.
Surely not twice as good as an M80? No, not twice as good; they are 10x better! Seriously, the 3200s are just immense little speakers. However, some 24/96 5000s are where the real value is FS: Meridian MK1 DSP5000 96/24 & D2500 - Big Price DropPlease buy them as I keep looking at them every day but I'm skint! Daughter starts Uni in 2 weeks and I am now officially broke for 3 years. 
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