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GMT #154989 2011-12-01 19:54
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Thanks for the links. I really enjoyed the radio interview and thought Scorsese did a good job explaining why he thought 3D use had parallels to early color and talkies in advancing cinema. I generally wait for the Bluray but Hugo and Tintin (we don't get tintin until Christmas) might just pull me into a theater.


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It is clearly true that the use of 3D is not yet well enough understood to get the best out of it.

However, another analogy to the earlier innovations in cinema might be to compare the processing of 2D films into 3D with the "colorising" of B&W films. This was not exactly a success.

There is a fundamental difference though between the introduction of colour and sound to film and 3D. Neither of these older advances required the audience to wear additional devices to take advantage of the technology.


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Another difference is that a large percentage of this generation of cinema goers has been turned *off* 3D.


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Another difference is that a large percentage of this generation of cinema goers has been turned *off* 3D.

I don't know if that is a difference - the implication was that the early colour and sound films were similarly received... Anyway it must be successful in the end, otherwise Minority Report would just be hollywood fantasy nonsense wink




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Originally Posted by MalcolmW
There is a fundamental difference though between the introduction of colour and sound to film and 3D. Neither of these older advances required the audience to wear additional devices to take advantage of the technology.

I agree - For me it's not a problem at a cinema, but at home it's not something that I'd want.... Who knows in years to come Smartphones may be built into glasses and people will wear them all the time!

I think it will take a really credible film such as The Godfather to be successfully made in 3D if audiences are going to be turned around. I also think that younger generations will be more adaptable to 3D, without the influence of 30 years + of 2D viewing. (I'm starting to feel like a 3D champion now and I don't even watch them!)

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Looks good Tom - Hugo seems to be touted as the best upcoming film at the moment.

Personally, I would really like to see some good *films* that just happen to be done well in 3D, even though it will force me to wear contact lenses at the cinema and buy a pair of my own (good quality) polarizing glasses.

Very much looking forward to the Hobbit too.


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Moving from silent films to audio tracks gave an obvious increase in information and enhanced enjoyment.

Moving from monochrome to colour gave an obvious increase in information and enhanced enjoyment.

2D film gives the illusion of 3D.

3D film gives the illusion of 3D but brings the hassle of wearing glasses and getting headaches.

Do the benefits of moving from 2D to 3D outweigh the penalties? Or is it just a change of degree rather than kind; whereas the earlier introductions of audio and colour were changes of kind.


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I'm not keen on 3D in general....
But, despite my reservations, I went to see Avatar and I was blown away!
But as Tom says, the script and the portrayal of this by the actors, is of more importance than having pointy sticks poked at you!
OK, so I'm showing my age, but I don't buy more than 1 (decent) film per year.... Maybe it's not the technology that's lacking, just good films smile


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Sure, Avatar looked great (saw it in 3D on IMAX) and Hugo isn't bad with a decent story but these nicely produced 3D outings are all CGI generated or enhanced. For this reason they don't have that element of the real world eg train station/platform scene at the beginning of the Hugo. It all looks very artificial.

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Avatar was great to go and see for novelty value and for technical achievement. But is anyone suggesting that the plot and acting were outstanding?

However, I can fully accept the point that 3D needs to be developed and understood, just as happened with sound and colour. I'm just not convinced that 3D is adding anything worthwhile at the moment compared with the problems of glasses and headaches.


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Originally Posted by Asa Post
Avatar was great to go and see for novelty value and for technical achievement. But is anyone suggesting that the plot and acting were outstanding?
Pocahontas 3D wink

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