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#277000 - 2018-06-12 08:59 Inexpensive Sooloos Core
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Filipe Offline
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OK so I have been lurking into what could serve as an inexpensive Sooloos Core for now.
I wish to try and maintain investment in NAS on the low side, because I don't need a NAS, only need is a Sooloos Core.

- Is the QNAP TS-269L a good budget choice (180€)?
- It seems to be Intel x86 based. Will it serve Sooloos?
- Also, would it serve Roon Core in case I would like to upgrade/change? I read that Roon is quite demanding!

I also have another issue to consider, and that is noise.

I can't put the NAS anywhere else besides my listening room, so it must be silent. These NAS do not look silent. They all have fans and I am sure they will make quite the noise. What is the alternative here?

Thanks!


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#277003 - 2018-06-12 10:07 Re: Inexpensive Sooloos Core [Re: Filipe]
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If noise is an issue, I wonder if a NAS is right for you? For Sooloos, the quietest solution for in-room core/store will likely be a used MC200. I used mine in my listening room before I moved to Roon, and it was whisper-quiet as it was designed ground-up to be an audio endpoint. My Synology NAS is certainly not listening room quiet! Maybe others might be able to comment on the audibility of QNAP, though...

If you're using Roon, you can just run a large internal HDD/SSD or, depending on how many albums you have, attach an external HD, or SSD to your PC core. If the PC doesn't have to be in the listening room and you're controlling with, say, an iPhone/iPad, then it doesn't even have to be audibly quiet.

If you don't have a core/NAS already, do you have a PC with enough spare storage, etc. which can be left on 24/7 to run Roon from another room, and a means of control so that you don't have to run it in the listening room? If so, you might be better off going Roon route and just paying the yearly/lifetime sub than buying NAS or core for Sooloos.


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#277005 - 2018-06-12 10:14 Re: Inexpensive Sooloos Core [Re: 3dit0r]
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There is a QNAP fanless NAS but it is not suitable for Roon if you go that way, the answer is to get the storage/core out of the listening room, if that is really not possible then for Sooloos an MC200 is probably the best option.


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#277025 - 2018-06-12 13:06 Re: Inexpensive Sooloos Core [Re: Ratbert]
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You could always look at the QNAP QNAP HS-251+ at £350 and put an SSD (or two) in it to make it completely silent. The MC200 is also very close to silent and is a no-hassle option, if you can buy it at a sensible price.

From what I can see, the QNAP option above should allow you to move to Roon if you wanted to (however, I doubt it could do any kind of additional signal processing over and above its music serving capabilities).


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#277032 - 2018-06-12 14:19 Re: Inexpensive Sooloos Core [Re: Jeremy A-H]
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Agree with Jeremy here.

I use a 251 with SSDs. Running both Sooloos Core and Roon Core. smile
I have 6 zones running when using Roon..

Cheers,
Ian


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#277033 - 2018-06-12 15:00 Re: Inexpensive Sooloos Core [Re: Martins HiFi]
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Hi Ian

Do you do any upsampling or DSP as I think that is where the QNAP 251 will struggle?

Russ


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#277077 - 2018-06-13 07:38 Re: Inexpensive Sooloos Core [Re: Ratbert]
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Hi Russ,

No - not a fan of it. Doesn't add anything worthy in my systems/set ups/rooms.

Ian.


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#277247 - 2018-06-18 19:43 Re: Inexpensive Sooloos Core [Re: Martins HiFi]
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My experiences with TS-X69L.

I had been running a TS-469L as store beautifully for a long time without issue, and decided to upgrade to store /core to have a cleaner system and sell the MC200. Memory and CPU% were very low while streaming Sooloos to 3 locations and raised a bit while serving video to 2.

Enter the 218... clicks, pops, skips, harsh sound, etc. everything through the 218 was distracting (streamed and local files).
Exhaustive audio and network troubleshooting continually pointed to the 218.
My very last test before exchanging it was to swap back in, as core only, the MC200 that had been in the closet for months.

Everything was back to normal and I heard the 218 for the first time.

As the NAS had very low memory & CPU stress and this is just data over a network, I can't explain why but I wouldn't chance it.

There must be some reason M don't list the X69L as recommended.


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#277413 - 2018-06-21 18:03 Re: Inexpensive Sooloos Core [Re: Gcap]
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Min spec recommended for QNAP is the TS-253 with 4GB.


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