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#290162 - 2020-01-02 20:28 818 feet
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Does anyone know if the feet on an 818v3 can be removed? If so, what is their thread size please?

Happy New Year.


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#290165 - 2020-01-02 22:01 Re: 818 feet [Re: Clemburt]
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The feet on 800 units come as two parts.

There is the rubber bumper that is stuck into the foot and then the plastic moulding that is held by nut and bolt to the lower case.
Removal is a pain as the nuts have nylock washers, which effectively means stripping down the unit to remove!

They have clearance under the unit for air-flow. It is not a good idea to block the bottom ventilation holes as there's no easy method for the heat to escape.

Not something I would recommend!

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Steve


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#290168 - 2020-01-02 22:51 Re: 818 feet [Re: swpnt]
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Thanks Steve. That’s a very comprehensive response - think I’ll leave them on!

Interested because large oak cones between the 818 (held on by a tiny amount of blu tack) and the oak rack it sits on sound to me better than the feet, by a long chalk. It would have been interesting to secure them into place.

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Colin


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#290272 - 2020-01-07 12:58 Re: 818 feet [Re: Clemburt]
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I use oak cone feet also (and agree they sound better) when on a wooden rack.

However, using blu-tak defeats the object of them, which is to couple the component to the shelf/stand (unless you've used the blu-tak in a recess in the cone so that it's never between the mating surfaces).

They are fine just to 'rest' under a component as heavy as an 818, as the weight will hold them and the equipment firmly enough (no cones are going to withstand lateral force, e.g., someone knocking them sideways, as the cones themselves will slide on the shelf, if that's a concern - that's just the nature and risk of supporting hi-fi this way).

If you really want to attach them and don't want to open the case, Russ Andrews used to recommend a *tiny* blob of good old superglue, which sets brittle hard and so thin it doesn't 'damp' the connection between the cone and equipment case. I don't do this on expensive gear as I don't want anything marring the surface, although in theory the bottom shouldn't matter cosmetically. If you ever need to remove them a light sideways 'tap' with a small hammer will shear superglue easily - it's not that strong in a shearing force. However, you will never remove the thin smear of superglue except by re-milling the oak cone, so beware!


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#291032 - 2020-02-13 19:59 Re: 818 feet [Re: 3dit0r]
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You are quite right about the use of blu-tak of course. However I wasn’t totally satisfied with the oak cones so tried Isoacoustics Orea supports instead. Goodness what a difference; the Oreas are superb (albeit they needed careful positioning to get the best out of them). To me they just sound right - not very helpful I know, but there we are - natural, musical. Well worth a listen.


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#291033 - 2020-02-13 20:08 Re: 818 feet [Re: Clemburt]
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+1 on Iso Acoustics products. Been playing around with them myself.


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#291036 - 2020-02-13 21:22 Re: 818 feet [Re: Clemburt]
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Did you go with the Indigo model? 3 or 4?


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#291037 - 2020-02-13 21:59 Re: 818 feet [Re: Soundserge]
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Yes, three Indigo.


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#291038 - 2020-02-13 22:10 Re: 818 feet [Re: Clemburt]
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Thank you, Sir.


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#291039 - 2020-02-13 22:15 Re: 818 feet [Re: Soundserge]
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My pleasure.


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#291041 - 2020-02-14 11:52 Re: 818 feet [Re: Clemburt]
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Originally Posted By Clemburt
You are quite right about the use of blu-tak of course. However I wasn’t totally satisfied with the oak cones so tried Isoacoustics Orea supports instead. Goodness what a difference; the Oreas are superb (albeit they needed careful positioning to get the best out of them). To me they just sound right - not very helpful I know, but there we are - natural, musical. Well worth a listen.
Very interesting!

It would be great if you could describe the quality of the difference between them and the previous oak cones (without blu-tak in between!) - e.g., more/less attack, harshness, air, etc...

Over the years I've found the oak cones to be a nice compromise between dynamism/clean bass and warmth/lack of fatigue, but I'm always up for any improvements as long as they're balanced!


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#291083 - 2020-02-16 23:37 Re: 818 feet [Re: 3dit0r]
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Apologies for the delay in replying. It’s not easy for me to make direct comparisons because I now also have larger Oreas under my speakers (that’s another story). I should also say that the Hi-Fi Racks stand the 861 sits on is not spiked (it stands on a floating oak floor) which may effect the performance of the cones?

Both sets of Oreas make similar improvements to the sound but it is difficult for me to now attribute how much each contributes to the overall improvement. In my limited language, the sound is more balanced and detailed, and therefore more natural and realistic. It seems as though more is unpacked so that I can listen more deeply into the music - the cones in comparison seemed at times constricted, more tiring to listen to. The sound stage with the Oreas is more spacious, there is more air as you say and again it sounds more realistic. Simply put, they enable a more enjoyable, more musical experience. Good MQA recordings can be startlingly realistic.

There are companies who sell them in the UK which offer 30 day money-back guarantees.

Hope this helps a bit. Please ask if you need anything further.


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