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#290688 - 2020-01-27 10:03 Embedded MQA?
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Bob James’ ‘Espresso’ album is an original MQA CD. It does not exist as a ‘non MQA’ CD.

Naturally, in Tidal, MQA is present in the stream, but in the Qobuz stream MQA is missing.

What is it on Qobuz that inherently strips out MQA from an original recording?


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#290692 - 2020-01-27 13:12 Re: Embedded MQA? [Re: spinaltap]
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Originally Posted By spinaltap
It does not exist as a ‘non MQA’ CD
Do you know that the label has not supplied a non-MQA version to Qobuz? i.e. Is it stated anywhere that it was an MQA-only release?


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#290693 - 2020-01-27 13:37 Re: Embedded MQA? [Re: VirusKiller]
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It is an MQA-only release.

Similarly, the (2019) remastered ‘Joined at the Hip’ CD album by Bob James and Kirk Whalem is an MQA-only release - which doesn’t stream as MQA via Qobuz.


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#290697 - 2020-01-27 20:19 Re: Embedded MQA? [Re: spinaltap]
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I would suggest that it's not worth it these days releasing a vanilla RBCD if you are sold on MQA. OTOH, it's very easy for studios/labels to supply different formats to different providers; which is what I think has happened here. I really doubt that Qobuz is "nobbling" the audio.


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#290748 - 2020-01-29 11:09 Re: Embedded MQA? [Re: VirusKiller]
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A quote from a Qobuz HiRes v Tidal MQA discussion:
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When Mike Jbara, CEO of MQA Ltd., visited Toronto in late June, I asked him if MQA streams and their FLAC counterparts usually come from the same source, with MQA processing being added for Tidal’s Masters versions. “Yes,” he replied.
So no embedded MQA on Qobuz.


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#290752 - 2020-01-29 14:26 Re: Embedded MQA? [Re: Fitcaz]
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Sorry, what does "embedded MQA" mean?


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#291157 - 2020-02-20 03:47 Re: Embedded MQA? [Re: VirusKiller]
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It drives me a little nuts that MQA can be available one day on Tidal and gone the next. It drives me even more crazy that it is impossible to tell whether something you buy from Tidal is MQA or not.

If I could find a reliable source for buying MQA now Onkyo is gone, I'd probably drop Tidal completely. It's likely I'd retain Qobuz to listen to music I don't own, but with Tidal I feel I'm paying for something where you can't be sure what you're getting one day to the next.

Thinking about it, I might just drop Tidal. For some reason, Qobuz often sounds better anyway [mostly for non-MQA tracks, though].


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