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#290337 - 2020-01-10 01:02 DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE
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Hi All,

I am thinking to get a pair of DSP7200SE or DSP5200SE as I want to simplify my system and maximise the potential of the Tidal MQA.

I believe DSP7200SE is better than DSP5200SE in term of spec and power etc, but how about the sound quality, any comment?

I have tried DSP7200SE at the local dealer, but they don't have DSP5200SE for demo.

Also, are they Class AB? I cannot find any information online.

Thanks

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#290338 - 2020-01-10 01:44 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: EugeneLi]
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Hi

I've had both - and they are both very good. I feel that the most obvious benefit of the 7200s is deeper and more controlled bass. I have mine in a 5.1 system using a G65 and 218 (for MQA).

What size room are you going to put the speakers in? Mine are in a room 3.5 metres by 4.5 metres. The 7200s are quite deep speakers and mine need to close to the wall in my room so that the door can open etc. This was much less of an issue with the 5200. I'm sure others will join in.

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#290341 - 2020-01-10 08:38 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: EugeneLi]
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Yes.
The cabinets of 7200SE are much better built than the 5200SE.


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#290351 - 2020-01-10 21:50 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: Albert]
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I've not compared them against each other, although I came from the DSP5000's and can only say you won't be disappointed with the 7200SE's. I'm now going through a similar thought process about whether I should be moving to the 8000SE's!

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#290360 - 2020-01-11 15:04 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: Albert]
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Originally Posted By Albert
Yes.
The cabinets of 7200SE are much better built than the 5200SE.


Yes but the 5200SE's are incredibly good in a small room IMHO it is far more effective if you match the speaker to the room.
I have listened to several installations of 8Ks and been unimpressed, even though Bob extolls the virtues of 8Ks in a telephone box.
However 5200SE have never failed to impress in small to medium sized rooms. JMPOV.
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#290361 - 2020-01-11 15:59 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: Hector]
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8K or 8KSE?


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#290363 - 2020-01-11 16:49 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: Albert]
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When SE DSP speakers were launched, I was fortunate to hear all 3 varieties in one place, though not in the same rooms. I can honestly say that the DSP5200SE were night and day better than the non-SE version and that was a side by side comparison. The 8KSE didn't sound particularly impressive, but the room they were in was not your typical 'domestic' room, and it was a very large space. Without a doubt, the sweet spot was the sound produced by the 7200SE. It was tighter, smoother, more controlled and more emotive than the 5200SE. Room sizes for the 5200SE and 7200SE were similar, as was the furnishings. I would happily swap my 5200SE for 7200SE, but my listening room is typically small (5m x 4m) and I don't have the spare cash.


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#290364 - 2020-01-11 17:19 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: TKimages]
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I had a very similar experience to TKimages, the original MQA demos. 5200SEs but I insisted they put the 7200SEs on. Huge difference, night and day. That’s why I’m waiting for 7200SEs but not been tempted by 5200SEs!

7200s have separate internal heads, same theory as 6&8ks. Very different cabinets, mass, scale etc.

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#290367 - 2020-01-11 20:02 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: Ogri]
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We all have to cut the cloth to suit the contents of our wallets, and IMO 5200SEs represent the best bang for buck since the advent of DSP5Ks all that time ago.
I had a visit recently from an owner of both 5200SEU and 8KSEU and his comment was that my 5200SEs sounded better than his. This should only be down to the room and I believe carpets and dry lined construction make a huge positive difference to what we audibly receive. Reflections are minimised to reduce the need for room correction / treatment etc..
New homes built in the last 30 years have their benefits.
Currently listening to Foy Vance Live at Bangor Abbey and if I close my eyes I am transported to another place and time, wonderful.
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Edited by Hector; 2020-01-11 20:10. Edit Reason: Added comment
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#290369 - 2020-01-11 22:56 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: Hector]
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Originally Posted By Hector
New homes built in the last 30 years have their benefits
I couldn’t agree more, in my experience dry lined walls work really well without needing much additional treatment.


DSP7200SE's, 818v3, Antipodes CX.
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR, PS Audio P5 (for 818), 2xSotM sNH-10G, SotM sCLK-OCX10.
[Using a mix of Alpha NR, Delta NR power cables + SotM and AudioQuest Diamond interconnects.]
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#290370 - 2020-01-12 01:36 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: EugeneLi]
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Super happy with my DSP5200SE. Probably some of the best speakers you can buy right now for the size. Just little bundles of joy. DSP5200SE vs DSP7200SE i think also comes down to the size of the room you want to play them in, I know Meridian themselves recommend speakers based on room size. DSP7200SE and especially DSP8000SEs can be monsters in a small room. In terms of bang for the buck you cant go wrong with a pair of DSP5200SEs.


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#290372 - 2020-01-12 02:30 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: GMT]
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Many thanks for all comments.
My room is about 5mx 3m.

How about the Amps? Are they class AB?

Thanks again

Eugene

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#290373 - 2020-01-12 03:24 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: EugeneLi]
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Yes,they are class AB


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#290393 - 2020-01-12 21:29 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: Aibo1]
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Originally Posted By Aibo1
I know Meridian themselves recommend speakers based on room size. DSP7200SE and especially DSP8000SEs can be monsters in a small room
I suspect you'd be right, especially having heard some DSP33's in a small room.

That said, as Hector mentioned, when Bob Stuart was asked which speaker he'd recommend for small rooms, it's said that he replied that, even in a phone box, the DSP8000's would still be by far the best sounding...


DSP7200SE's, 818v3, Antipodes CX.
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR, PS Audio P5 (for 818), 2xSotM sNH-10G, SotM sCLK-OCX10.
[Using a mix of Alpha NR, Delta NR power cables + SotM and AudioQuest Diamond interconnects.]
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#290509 - 2020-01-16 03:02 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: Jeremy A-H]
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Originally Posted By Jeremy A-H
I couldn’t agree more, in my experience dry lined walls work really well without needing much additional treatment.
Must be a British term... what are dry lined walls? Would that be anything like what we call drywall in the US?


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#290510 - 2020-01-16 03:49 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: Nstzya]
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Originally Posted By Nstzya
Must be a British term... what are dry lined walls? Would that be anything like what we call drywall in the US?
Yes, also known as 'plasterboard' in the UK.


DSP7200SE's, 818v3, Antipodes CX.
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR, PS Audio P5 (for 818), 2xSotM sNH-10G, SotM sCLK-OCX10.
[Using a mix of Alpha NR, Delta NR power cables + SotM and AudioQuest Diamond interconnects.]
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#290639 - 2020-01-22 18:07 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: Jeremy A-H]
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Hit the 8ks from the 7200SE’. Night and day in any room size.
I couldn’t believe the stereo imaging and control improvements.
Insane.

I’m still broke mind you having paid for them!


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#290645 - 2020-01-22 23:55 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: Cmr600]
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Thanks! Is this comparing the 8k vs the 7k2SE (as opposed to the 8kSE)?


DSP7200SE's, 818v3, Antipodes CX.
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR, PS Audio P5 (for 818), 2xSotM sNH-10G, SotM sCLK-OCX10.
[Using a mix of Alpha NR, Delta NR power cables + SotM and AudioQuest Diamond interconnects.]
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#290750 - 2020-01-29 12:32 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: Jeremy A-H]
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I think this discussion is only with the wallet and space of accomodation. Every step up the way up to DSP8kSE will gain you net improvements.

Every speaker got better as they were charged with SE components and drivers.


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#290811 - 2020-02-04 10:33 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: Crion]
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I've also heard both at the same time/room/system, etc. In fact we went through all the variations - 5200 SL/SE Upgrade/SE and the same with 7200s. Fascinating! To my ears/in that room, etc. 5200 factory SE (with clamp rings) were a massive step-up from original 5200. Really lovely sounding speaker and might be all you ever need if you don't have a large room. With 7200, it wasn't quite so clear cut. 7200.2 are already a magnificent speaker (I can attest to this having lived with a pair for 2-odd years now). The upgrade to SE was still noticeable, to be sure, but unlike the 5200 it didn't change it from a speaker I wouldn't bother to buy, into one I would, if that makes sense?

Main gains stepping up from 5200 to 7200 of any flavour are deeper, cleaner bass, a greater sense of effortlessness and scale, and simply more information coming through. I find 7200.2 far more dynamic and involving musically than 5200.2, but losing nothing of their smoothness. OTOH, 5200 factory SE was so good I had a hard time choosing that or 7200.2 (my budget at the time didn't run to 7200SE) because they were different in slightly different ways but both very good, but if you're comparing SE to SE that's not a concern.

Just to touch on room size for a moment, all of mine have been used in a relatively small room (approx 5m x 4m). I have a small amount of bass trapping but nothing excessive. Properly positioned, 7200.2 have been bigger, yet clearer in the bass than 5200.2 were. 6Ks also worked very well, so I don't neccessarily agree that the bigger DSPs won't work well in small rooms in terms of sound quality. What you might find with 8Ks in particular is that they look far too large for the space and you almost feel you're sitting in them, but SQ wise, not a problem. 7200 have by far the cleanest, most extended bass I've experienced in my room, and I've also had little standmounts in here. Make of that what you will.

I would definitely listen before you buy, though, just in terms that if you are happy with the 5200SE then your wallet won't take such a hit!

P.S. a big difference between all kinds of 5200 and 7200 is the construction - 5200 use high-grade birch ply panels, which is fine, whereas 7200 use 'meridium', which is Meridian's moniker for birch ply/aluminium laminate material which is also used in the 8000 series. iirc, the reason is that wood and aluminium resonate at different frequencies so the laminate is essentially free of resonant frequencies (indeed if you read the measurements section of the Stereophile review for the DSP8000 back in the day, the usual accellerometer reading from the speaker panels is missing - the reason being there was no resonance to measure!). I believe this contributes to the incredible clarity (and possibly extra bass clarity?) of the 7200/8000.


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Edited by 3dit0r; 2020-02-04 10:39.
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#290819 - 2020-02-04 20:14 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: 3dit0r]
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Very thoughtful review, thanks. Regarding construction, don’t forget the 7200s have separate heads, like 6&8ks but “built in”.

I’m also a fan of the much underrated 7200.2s but I have a pair, so I’m biased (second time round pair).

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#290821 - 2020-02-05 00:20 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: Crion]
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It sounds like I need to audition some DSP8000SE's!


DSP7200SE's, 818v3, Antipodes CX.
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR, PS Audio P5 (for 818), 2xSotM sNH-10G, SotM sCLK-OCX10.
[Using a mix of Alpha NR, Delta NR power cables + SotM and AudioQuest Diamond interconnects.]
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#290822 - 2020-02-05 00:43 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: Jeremy A-H]
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#290825 - 2020-02-05 10:10 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: Jeremy A-H]
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Originally Posted By Jeremy A-H
It sounds like I need to audition some DSP8000SE's!
What? you haven't already done that ? wink


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#290828 - 2020-02-05 11:37 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: Jeremy A-H]
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Originally Posted By Jeremy A-H
It sounds like I need to audition some DSP8000SE's!
Definitely!



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#290832 - 2020-02-06 01:40 Re: DSP7200SE vs. DSP5200SE [Re: ncpl]
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I try not to audition things I can't afford! At least until I can smile


DSP7200SE's, 818v3, Antipodes CX.
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR, PS Audio P5 (for 818), 2xSotM sNH-10G, SotM sCLK-OCX10.
[Using a mix of Alpha NR, Delta NR power cables + SotM and AudioQuest Diamond interconnects.]
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