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#286979 - 2019-08-14 15:03 How to connect 218 & M80 using RCA to 3.5mm
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Hi

I thought it would be a great idea to try and connect my 218 to my M80 to see how it sounds. Unfortunately my other half has placed my Mini TOSlink cable somewhere and she cannot remember where so luckily I found an old QED RCA to 3.5mm analogue cable.

The trouble is it’s such a long time since I used the M80 and have never used the analogue sockets on the 218 before I am not sure what to do and also do I need to change anything in the 218 configuration?

Any help would b greatly appreciated.

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Danny


DSP3200. 218. M80, GIK Acoustics Monster Bass Trap, GIK Acoustics 244 Bass Trap x2, GIK Acoustics Tri-Trap x2, SB Touch, iPeng, ProJect Debut Carbon, Rega Fono Mini A2D, Partington Broadside Stands, Grado SR125i.
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#286980 - 2019-08-14 15:35 Re: How to connect 218 & M80 using RCA to 3.5mm [Re: Danny77]
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All sorted!.

But is there anything I need to change in the 218 or Tidal or Roon configuration?

Danny


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#286982 - 2019-08-14 17:24 Re: How to connect 218 & M80 using RCA to 3.5mm [Re: Danny77]
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Roon is only talking to the 218 so you shouldn’t need to change anything, it will see the 218 as an MQA decoder and renderer so will set itself accordingly.

Tidal should be set for MQA bypass so it passes the undecoded file for the 218 to decode but I assume you already had it set that way?

Regarding the 218 I don’t believe you need to change anything but others with more experience will advise as I have never used one.


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#286983 - 2019-08-14 17:33 Re: How to connect 218 & M80 using RCA to 3.5mm [Re: Ratbert]
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Analogue can be variable or fixed. You can check in the IP Control app.


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#286984 - 2019-08-14 18:18 Re: How to connect 218 & M80 using RCA to 3.5mm [Re: ChrisLayerUK]
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Hi

I’m pretty sure Tidal is set to bypass although I need to check.

I set upsampling to x1 in 218 config.

Need to find my Mini TOSlink cable as I’m sure that will sound better, need to buy a converter first though.

Danny


DSP3200. 218. M80, GIK Acoustics Monster Bass Trap, GIK Acoustics 244 Bass Trap x2, GIK Acoustics Tri-Trap x2, SB Touch, iPeng, ProJect Debut Carbon, Rega Fono Mini A2D, Partington Broadside Stands, Grado SR125i.
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#286985 - 2019-08-14 18:33 Re: How to connect 218 & M80 using RCA to 3.5mm [Re: Danny77]
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Years ago I tried both analogue and optical into M80. Optical was much better. That could have been source though (SBTouch IIRC).

Cables are cheap online. Worth knowing for sure.


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#286986 - 2019-08-14 18:34 Re: How to connect 218 & M80 using RCA to 3.5mm [Re: Danny77]
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Just noticed the “Passthrough MQA” option is no longer showing in the Tidal settings.

Any thoughts?


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#286987 - 2019-08-14 18:49 Re: How to connect 218 & M80 using RCA to 3.5mm [Re: Danny77]
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Is your Tidal subscription hifi?


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#286988 - 2019-08-14 19:12 Re: How to connect 218 & M80 using RCA to 3.5mm [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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No it’s Master.

Just tried again and can’t see the MQ passthrough option.

Obviously I am doing something wrong along the line?

When I click on Tidal settings then Streaming I can see the Hi-Fi or Master streaming options but that is it, no DAC view or option to passthrough.


DSP3200. 218. M80, GIK Acoustics Monster Bass Trap, GIK Acoustics 244 Bass Trap x2, GIK Acoustics Tri-Trap x2, SB Touch, iPeng, ProJect Debut Carbon, Rega Fono Mini A2D, Partington Broadside Stands, Grado SR125i.
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#286989 - 2019-08-14 19:35 Re: How to connect 218 & M80 using RCA to 3.5mm [Re: Danny77]
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The bypass setting is shown on this page are you seeing something different?


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#286990 - 2019-08-14 19:44 Re: How to connect 218 & M80 using RCA to 3.5mm [Re: Ratbert]
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It seems I am seeing something different.

When I click on streaming then I have master which is currently the chosen audio quality then when I click on sound output I just see my pc sound option no 218 or 3200


DSP3200. 218. M80, GIK Acoustics Monster Bass Trap, GIK Acoustics 244 Bass Trap x2, GIK Acoustics Tri-Trap x2, SB Touch, iPeng, ProJect Debut Carbon, Rega Fono Mini A2D, Partington Broadside Stands, Grado SR125i.
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#286991 - 2019-08-14 20:40 Re: How to connect 218 & M80 using RCA to 3.5mm [Re: Danny77]
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After a bit of searching I found this article from a frustrated Tidal user who seems to have eventually figured out where the options are!

Hope it helps?


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