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#286232 - 2019-07-05 23:08 5200SE Speaker placement and DSP settings?
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I am experimenting with placement and setting. I seem to have screwed something up as my sound in the mids and highs has become very muddy and distant compared to where is was. I placed them back to there original position but still the same?

I have a 218 streaming from Tidal as well as my library.

Any thoughts?


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#286233 - 2019-07-05 23:16 Re: 5200SE Speaker placement and DSP settings? [Re: ARD]
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The SE’s appear to need more toe-in than previously required. Are you certain they are still pointing almost directly at the listening position after moving them back?

Worth checking the connections too, in case they are loose or a tab got snapped on one of the speakerlink plugs.


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#286234 - 2019-07-05 23:19 Re: 5200SE Speaker placement and DSP settings? [Re: Jeremy A-H]
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Thanks, Toed in and cable ok


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#286236 - 2019-07-06 01:03 Re: 5200SE Speaker placement and DSP settings? [Re: ARD]
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If you are chasing a stereo image, more toe in is required.


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#286242 - 2019-07-06 10:55 Re: 5200SE Speaker placement and DSP settings? [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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If you think you have scrambled the settings, a re-type will perform a factory reset back to one of the states mentioned in the manual.


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#286252 - 2019-07-06 17:20 Re: 5200SE Speaker placement and DSP settings? [Re: ARD]
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Setup as home-run, with a separate SpeakerLink from the 218 to each speaker speaker.

Can either the left or right speaker be a master? Do you have to have a slave if it’s not daisy chained?

Also is type 1 correct with the 218?

Just trying everything I can to get these back configured correctly.


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#286253 - 2019-07-06 17:30 Re: 5200SE Speaker placement and DSP settings? [Re: ARD]
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Only one can be master whether daisy chained or home run, with the master to the master port and slave to the slave port on the 218 if wired as home run or just to the master port if daisy chained.


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#286254 - 2019-07-06 18:48 Re: 5200SE Speaker placement and DSP settings? [Re: Ratbert]
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Thank, I redid them as original. Don’t understand how I lost a lot of my kids and highs? Back to the drawing board. Could a crossover have messed up?


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#286261 - 2019-07-07 07:50 Re: 5200SE Speaker placement and DSP settings? [Re: ARD]
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Make sure you have L and R set. Easy to get LL or RR and 1channel mono will sound weird and miss stuff.


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#286266 - 2019-07-07 12:50 Re: 5200SE Speaker placement and DSP settings? [Re: ncpl]
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Thanks, with a lot of moving around I have been able to improvement the sound a lot.

It seems counter intuitive to have to place them closer? However, it worked better.

I am using type 1 with the 5200SE and a 218 controller. I have had several Meridian setups over the years. I just cant shake the feeling that the setting are not as tuned in as can be for optimal sound. Not 100% yet on my critical listing tracks but will keep trying.


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#286283 - 2019-07-08 16:14 Re: 5200SE Speaker placement and DSP settings? [Re: ARD]
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The Meridian guys called me back and we made some setting adjustments which seem to help greatly, thank you all


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#286284 - 2019-07-08 17:17 Re: 5200SE Speaker placement and DSP settings? [Re: ARD]
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That is good, so what did they change?


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