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#279984 - 2018-11-08 16:26 Music 'Consumption'
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Dear Fellow-Meridian-Sufferers

Your learned advice: My music plays through an AC200 and DSP5200SLs. I think I'm quite impressed with these items. At some time in the past, I was seduced by the concept of 'consuming' music in a new way, hence the C15. How super to be able to stab a screen and flit from one album to another, or even to stream high quality music from the interweb! Well, my experience of this has been mixed. The C15 itself works pretty well, although the screen needs to be poked pretty ferociously with a stiff finger and the software it runs seems pretty clunky and unintuitive. My C15 then broke down. Meridian were completely disinterested and seemed to enjoy informing me that they no longer 'supported' my ancient (10 yr old) contraption. I therefore forked out on an MC200. Soon after, I discovered that the C15 simply had a broken transformer and was therefore easily fixable. Realising that I should be able to control the C15 remotely, as I would have to my shiny new MC200, I thought I'd try out the various controlling apps - Control:Mac and appropriate apps for iPad and iPhone, before committing to the MC200.

Controlling my music remotely has been a miserable experience. Control:Mac is horrible. Often it can't find my 'Core' and for a while it appeared to find the 'Core', but then simply presented me with a blank white screen. Its software looks prehistoric. The iPad and iPhone apps are not much better. They often cannot connect to the 'Core' and recently all the album art has simply disappeared from my iPad (see another post asking for advice on this). As a consequence I really no longer look forward to listening to music. When I have an hour to spare, I settle down in my music room and almost invariably have to wrestle with the equipment. It is rarely a pleasant experience. As a consequence, I am terrified of not having some direct control over my listening ie through my C15, and the MC200 remains in its box.

This has caused me to think carefully about how I wish to 'consume' my music. I am seriously thinking about abandoning both the C15 and MC200, buying a top-quality CD player, and going back to the joy of loading plastic discs into a machine. This option is particularly tempting as I have a small but much-loved SACD collection, which (as far as I am aware) cannot be 'ripped' onto C15/MC200. Furthermore, I have serious misgivings about the quality of the music that issues forth from these media storage devices.

General advice would be gratefully received.


C15; MC200; AC200; DSP5200SL
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#279985 - 2018-11-08 17:16 Re: Music 'Consumption' [Re: David_Lewis]
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First option, Roon (if you can afford it).

Second Option, Amarra Luxe

I own the latter. It will convert DSD to PCM. It will provide first unfold of MQA, prior to rendering by an attached MQA DAC. It provides Tidal integration. It’s cheaper than Roon. Remote control is via iOS Amarra Play.

Dirac (iRC) room correction software can be integrated into Amarra Luxe.

Discounts will be available come Black Friday.

In theory, I anticipate making use of the Meridian 210 to stream content from my Mac Mini Server/Amarra Luxe, to Meridian 218 - and utilising my iPad as remote.


My Mac can go all the way to XI - Mac user since 1988.
Meridian owner since 1993.
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#279986 - 2018-11-08 17:20 Re: Music 'Consumption' [Re: David_Lewis]
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I don’t think that a change to Roon or anything else is a solution to the immediate problem. It all sounds like an issue with your network connections. How are your MC200 and C15 connected to the internet?

Brian


Main: G65, MD600, MS600, 218, HD621, DSP5200SE, DSP5200HCSE, M6 & D1500.
System 2: G91A, MS200, DSP5000 (96/24v1), DSP3300.
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#279988 - 2018-11-08 17:38 Re: Music 'Consumption' [Re: bxd]
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Agreed


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#279990 - 2018-11-08 19:29 Re: Music 'Consumption' [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Hi,

Hows about a 808v5 or v6? Then you'll have the best of both worlds.


808v6, 7200SE, LP12, Ekoss, AT- Art9, Uphorik, Lingo mk2, Oppo 105D, ...
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#279991 - 2018-11-08 19:55 Re: Music 'Consumption' [Re: Steve Dobie]
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Hi, I would also say the same about your network being the issue.

I have seen many issues with networks that are not well put together.

As having the same very similar kitI never ever have dropouts.

I also installed in a large residential a Sooloos system with around 33 zones of Sooloos, all working fine and never loses core.

So long as you have a good network foundation then Sooloos and Roon will work perfectly.

If you need further advice please pm/email me.

Cheers
Edd


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Edited by MrTechGuy; 2018-11-08 21:18.
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#279992 - 2018-11-08 20:15 Re: Music 'Consumption' [Re: MrTechGuy]
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Sounds like you need a wireless access point that does not drop multicast packets.

I would recommend an Apple AirPort based device, but Apple stopped developing them...


Meridian owner since 1992
DSP5000 96/24, MC200, Prime & PSU, Focal Elear, Explorer 1 & 2, F80, 200/203 and various Sonos.
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#279993 - 2018-11-08 21:16 Re: Music 'Consumption' [Re: Ian]
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Hi Ian, I have a box full of second-hand ones all work too...

Offers (only joking)

Edd


Repairs, Upgrades, Spares and System Setup.
http://www.mrtechguy.co.uk

Authorised Meridian Legacy Repairs
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#280054 - 2018-11-11 20:18 Re: Music 'Consumption' [Re: David_Lewis]
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I run a Sooloos system entirely wirelessly and after suffering frustrations of the kind you describe I found an answer that is completely reliable. I have 3 C10s, an Ensemble as a store and core (it also works well with a 4TB TwinStore rackmount which I have but I don't need that much storage currently) and I use iPhones and iPads for control as well as the C10s. The wireless is principally provided by 5 BT WholeHome discs and one of these (only) is hardwired to a switch. The Ensemble is linked to the wireless by an elderly but reliable Belkin wireless ethernet adapter. My 218 is hardwired to one of the BT discs.

The golden key was when I put this lot into a Netgear 5 port switch and not into my router (the switch goes to the router of course). Another key may be that I set the BT discs to Compatibility mode. This is a setting I stumbled across when talking to those discs via their browser interface rather than the ios app where it doesn't seem to be available. I say may be because I changed two variables simultaneously (the introduction of the switch and the disc setting) which is intellectually foolish, but since everything now works so well, and I am lazy, I have not eliminated the uncertainty. However, given the experience of others on this forum, I think the switch is the answer. I haven't touched this configuration for weeks and it is still doing what I want whenever required. I use it for Tidal, stored music and internet radio.


Cinema: 861v8, ID40,UHD722,800v4,DSP5200SE(2+C), DSP3300(4),DSW,+ various recorders and streamers.
TV+Music: MS200(x2),Explorer2,QNAP TS253A,DSP33(2), 3xC10s,Ensemble, Twinstore, 218
Music: All Quad incl ESL63.
Kitchen: AD88 (bluetoothed via its I80 dock).
Spare: 101, M2(2) 104 Tuner
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