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#279942 - 2018-11-06 22:02 Thinking of buying...
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JamieB Offline
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I have no Meridian gear, but I've always been envious of my brother's setup. My brother pointed me at a listing, and I went to a chap's house this week to listen to a DSP5000 surround setup with a center, four towers, and a 561. They have 18/48 DACs.

Played TRON on blu-ray. In general, they system sounded fantastic, but I felt there was something missing in the high frequencies. Almost like someone just found the treble knob and dialed it down. It also sounded like the dialog from the center speaker was somewhat muffled. Almost like it was coming from far away.

Of course, it may just be that this is a 20 year old system and my expectations are too high. I am tempted to get it anyway, because the movie otherwise sounded great, and maybe it's just a problem with the center, or perhaps just the tweeter.

Any advice? Obvious things I should be looking for?

If it is a tweeter, is there an easy route to fixing a 20 year old speaker in the pacific northwest?

Thanks.


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#279961 - 2018-11-07 15:59 Re: Thinking of buying... [Re: JamieB]
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The tweeters are probably shot, I think Bruce sells tweeter replacements (CMB Integrations).

I would buy minimum 24/96 5K's, they have pleasing midrange and if the tweeters aren't shot, sound amazing with music.
Adding a SW1600 also provides great bass.


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#279963 - 2018-11-07 16:09 Re: Thinking of buying... [Re: MJT5282]
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I agree and would add that, along with 96/24 versions of the 5k's, a 568 over the 561 would probably add minimal to the price and be a big step forward. If you got a 562.2mm (the .2mm is important) that along with a HD621 would handle all but the latest 4k offerings, would give you something that would keep you very happy.

As with most things, getting it right from the start is often much cheaper than faffing around upgrading/repairing. But I guess it depends on how cheap the bundle is and you understanding that its 44.1/48k non discreet channel limitations make it very old school.


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Prime & PSU, Focal Elear headphones, roon (ROCK 8Gi5 Nuc), Explorer 1 & 2, F80. Gathering dust - 200/203, MC200 and various Sonos.
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#279967 - 2018-11-07 18:16 Re: Thinking of buying... [Re: Ian]
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Is there a secret language for identifying 96/24 versions on eBay etc? None of the 5000s on eBay right now have 96/24 in their description.

Can one tell by serial numbers? Can they be identified visually?


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#279968 - 2018-11-07 18:28 Re: Thinking of buying... [Re: JamieB]
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If they are 'smiley face' (shape of display) they are definitely 96/24

DSP5000's have 2 serial numbers per speaker, one on back for electronics, the other often hidden in the port for cabinet/drivers. If either start with 2 or later, then they are 96/24, if either start with 1, they started life as '18' bit (ie cabinet and drivers will be older than 96/24 versions), but if other is 2 then they have been upgraded.

There may also be a 96/24 sticker on the rear, and may even be an upgrade sticker.

If mention to firmware version is given/shown, then 4.x or earlier is 18 bit, 5.x or later is 96/24.


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Prime & PSU, Focal Elear headphones, roon (ROCK 8Gi5 Nuc), Explorer 1 & 2, F80. Gathering dust - 200/203, MC200 and various Sonos.
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#279969 - 2018-11-07 19:12 Re: Thinking of buying... [Re: Ian]
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Looks like 18/48s go for ~$700 per pair here, whereas I can only find one (expired) listing for a "smiley face" and it's ~$2000 per pair.
If 18/48s hold their price well, perhaps buy them and be patient for a nicely priced pair of 24/96?


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#279975 - 2018-11-07 22:56 Re: Thinking of buying... [Re: JamieB]
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Hi Jamie

Welcome to the forum.

Amazing place for support, ideas and 2nd hand gear.

The prices you mention seem a little on the high side to me; I suggest you consider the advice given, 568.2mm and 96/24 versions and keep checking the restaurant on here to see what comes up. There are private individuals and professional dealers able to list 2nd hand equipment in this section, no doubt you will get the hang of it.

Take your time and invest wisely.

Good luck and enjoy whatever you buy.

Cheers
Jon


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#279976 - 2018-11-07 23:12 Re: Thinking of buying... [Re: Lord Polbrook]
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Patience grasshopper. I have sold used 5200's for those kind of prices. PM me I can help with some things.


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#279977 - 2018-11-07 23:16 Re: Thinking of buying... [Re: Lord Polbrook]
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Ah yes, I was quoting eBay prices. I finally went to the Restaurant and checked the history there. I shall just have to be patient!


Oppo 203 Vanity HD; 6xDSP5ks, DSP5kC; Sony Z9D, PS4; Squeezebox3; Roku Ultra 2017; Roon Mac Mini;
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#279981 - 2018-11-08 14:20 Re: Thinking of buying... [Re: JamieB]
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I would suggest you contact Bruce, above. He is VERY resourceful.


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