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#277564 - 2018-06-27 08:49 Re: Dinosaurs are not the future [Re: Ratbert]
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spinaltap Offline
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Loc: Bournville, UK
Originally Posted By Ratbert
Other products that are available locally I guess or internet dealers who will come to you and home demo.
Case in point: one Rotel dealer (from whom I previously bought Meridian) advised that Rotel’s distributor (B&W) would once have provided said dealer with specific Rotel items that the dealer didn’t ordinarily carry in stock for the customer to home audition. Since B&W were bought out such customer service has evaporated - both for the dealer and the end customer.


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#277575 - 2018-06-27 12:26 Re: Dinosaurs are not the future [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Loc: San Jose, California, USA
Originally Posted By CMB Integrations - Bruce
I regularly travel upwards of 800 miles doing in home demos.
Amazing and admirable, particular nowadays. The folks in your area are lucky to have a dealer like you.


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#277576 - 2018-06-27 12:40 Re: Dinosaurs are not the future [Re: Akimo]
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A one off I would say?


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#277580 - 2018-06-27 12:51 Re: Dinosaurs are not the future [Re: Akimo]
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800 miles on UK roads would take upwards of a week and you would need a new set of teeth at the end of it. Presumably the potholes will get fixed once HS2 is finished. Great service Bruce, you deserve your success.


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#277581 - 2018-06-27 12:58 Re: Dinosaurs are not the future [Re: Akimo]
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Meridian Partner Working on the ultimate question
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I have found that sitting in your shop waiting for customers to stop by is not the best strategy for me. I have to make myself available where and when the need happens. I regularly get called out to a clients home because a local dealer doesn't want to mess with anything that won't involve new equipment. Thus far those local dealers have lost big money with that business model.


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#277583 - 2018-06-27 13:57 Re: Dinosaurs are not the future [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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That's the mistake my local HiFi store made. They just sat in their shop like lemons waiting on a dwindling customer base. Minimal movement towards the custom install market, zero engagement with new platforms such as streaming and generally poor internet presence. Their demise was all too predictable but I was very sad to see them fold as they were a good dealer in their day.


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#277584 - 2018-06-27 14:00 Re: Dinosaurs are not the future [Re: Cliff.]
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CMB Integrations - Bruce Offline
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Exactly. You have to be willing to adapt to a rapidly changing environment.


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#277585 - 2018-06-27 14:04 Re: Dinosaurs are not the future [Re: Akimo]
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Meridian Partner Working on the ultimate question
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Loc: Lexington, South Carolina, USA
My area is practically everywhere. I will be headed out to the left coast later this year for two projects.


www.cmbintegrations.com

Personal System #1 Trinnov Altitude 32-8-16, 818v3, DSP8000.2SE, DSP7200SEHC, Revel F228be, Revel B112, Monitor Audio Silver 10, ATI 200WX5 Amp, JVC RS15, Shunyata Denali 6000S, Alpha power cables, Black Diamond Zero Edge screen. QNAP TS-251 3TB
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#277592 - 2018-06-27 18:24 Re: Dinosaurs are not the future [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Gerard Offline
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Loc: High River, Alberta, Canada
Having dealt with Bruce I can attest to his advice and help with various products.

In this interconnected and fast changing world it is increasingly difficult to differentiate between the very good, good and average, so what is the value proposition of high end audio.

The audiophile or more modern terminology 'Music lover', we have to be able to introduce people by showing through listening that there is a wonderful emotional experience to hearing great music played on quality systems, I have yet to meet a person when introduced, at the right time and place, to this environment is not moved by the experience.

Until such time that a person can be convinced that the qualitative difference in music reproduction is worth their while in cost and time, it, like many other products and services will go to the lowest cost and simplest, for them, solution.

In part we, the high end audio community, have to provide a cost and friendly entry point where the graduation to better systems can be seen as a worthwhile and understandable progression.

This most likely will, unfortunately, result in a significant consolidation in audio equipment manufacturers and retailers, something that the rest of the business world is dealing with also, the question for the audio world is will it follow behind or try taking charge of its own destiny.

Whilst some may enjoy the present complexity and competing thoughts about best practices, for most consumers it is at best a turn off (remember the battles between beta and VHS etc. etc.), so how do we provide a clearer and more understandable product that reaches beyond the shrinking audiophile community.

No doubt personal services like those offered by Bruce and similar providers satisfy those seeking their knowledge and professionalism, it is the industry made up of all its stakeholders that have to chart a course that is outward looking and faces the realities of our own as well as the wider music communities desires and needs.


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#277596 - 2018-06-27 21:04 Re: Dinosaurs are not the future [Re: Gerard]
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This reminds me of a meme I saw a few weeks ago. A picture of the self service checkouts at a DIY store. The caption said “if I wanted to do shopping without people I would have used Amazon”.

I do think there is something in that. I think retail is possibly the architect of its own fate in some respects.

I know it is more complicated than that.


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#277603 - 2018-06-27 21:49 Re: Dinosaurs are not the future [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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JimK Offline
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Loc: California, USA
Originally Posted By CMB Integrations - Bruce
My area is practically everywhere. I will be headed out to the left coast later this year for two projects.
It's happening. Wow! Door is open and lights are on, Bruce!


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#277605 - 2018-06-27 22:12 Re: Dinosaurs are not the future [Re: JimK]
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Meridian Partner Working on the ultimate question
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Working on the ultimate question

Registered: 2009-11-10
Posts: 1,444
Loc: Lexington, South Carolina, USA
Thanks Jim


www.cmbintegrations.com

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