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#277062 - 2018-06-12 21:39 Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722
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Hi!

I have had my UHD722 almost two months now. It replaced my HD621. That unit did not display any problems, and I have not changed anything else in my picture/audio chain.

After a couple of days I got a pink ”film” over the picture when starting my Apple TV 4th gen. I switched to my blu-ray port (Oppo-105) and the pink ”film” is still there.

I have rebooted my Apple TV, Oppo, 861v8, UHD722 and my JVC-X7500 and the pink ”film” always there. The only thing that works is if I manually turn off the power on the back of the UHD722 and then turn it back on. This works every time.

I get this problem around once/week.

Does anyone have the same problem? Should I notify Meridian to maybe get a update to fix this?


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#277063 - 2018-06-12 22:00 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Brandon]
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There is a firmware update for the UHD722, has yours been updated since you purchased it?


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#277074 - 2018-06-13 06:22 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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I have a similar issue using an LG OLED. Completely random and only cleared by hard power cycle of the UHD722. It's still present after the latest firmware update.

Thinking it could be cables I also replaced them with Audioquest HDMI (as recommedned by Meridian) but to no effect. It's very annoying but I'm learning to live with it

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#277078 - 2018-06-13 08:01 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Brandon]
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Haven't seen this yet on my (1 week old) UHD722 & really hope I don't : I used to see this regularly with my HD621 and the only solution was not only a power disconnect but a HDMI cable removal - seemed to be related to the HDCP handshake & it 'upset' all the devices in the chain.
My UHD722 is on the very latest firmware.


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#277088 - 2018-06-13 11:57 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Brandon]
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Hi,

I had similar problems (and others) with my 722 and Sony 55X8509. Rick of Audio Images advised me to change to a fully compliant 4k/HDR NueTec optical cable (722 to Sony TV) and also ensure my cables from my Oppo 205 and Sky Q devices to 722 were similarly using 4k complaint cables. Things improved somewhat and after further advice from Rick I powered off all devices (TV/Oppos 105 & 203 /Sky Q / 722) and powered on again and since then have had no problems. Not upgraded the firmware yet.

Cheers
Bob


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#277093 - 2018-06-13 13:59 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Do I do this via Mconfig? I can´t find any files online?


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#277096 - 2018-06-13 14:36 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Brandon]
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The files are not available online. You use Winfup to load the firmware.


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#277415 - 2018-06-21 19:41 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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So do I need to bring it to a dealer to get it updated!?


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#277654 - 2018-06-29 14:46 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Brandon]
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I'm getting this issue about twice a week. I have to reboot my gear Apple TV 4K, G65, Sony A1E, Oppo 203 than everything returns to normal or sometimes I don't have picture on the Apple TV 4K after the reboot I would have to reseat its HDMI connection. I have the latest update and my dealer has reported this to Meridian. I hope Meridian issues a fix to this soon it's pretty annoying to have to constantly reboot. Never had this issue with my HD HD621.


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#277656 - 2018-06-29 15:03 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Blickman]
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Really getting a bit sick of this over-sensitivity to cabling, power-cycles etc. and whatever happened to 'backwards compatibility'?

I just tried watching the 25th Anniversary Hall of Fame Awards Anniversary on Bluray from an Oppo 103 BD player. After the first 20-30 minutes the picture cuts out (snow) and/or screen turns to green (obvious handshake problem)! I got so pi$$ed off with it I eventually killed the screen and just listened to the audio.

Surely, 1080p playback should just happen regardless of which HDMI cable is used?

~M~


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#277657 - 2018-06-29 15:34 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Meridialien]
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I thought we were way past handshake issues... how disappointing.


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#277661 - 2018-06-29 17:15 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Jon Raines]
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Disappointing indeed, I thought the worst was over with Oppo-203 UHD player ... I upgraded the HDMI Video cable (Nuetec) then I remembered that the problem only stopped because I connected the 203 output directly to the TV with Audio going via UHD722 cry

With the Apple TV 4k, it plays fine once it gets going but at launch it triggers an 'Invalid Format' warning from my LG OLED TV and is only cured by a complete reset.

Still hoping for a firmware update miracle.

~M~


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#277726 - 2018-07-03 01:17 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Meridialien]
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I don’t have a UHD722, but I pass my Apple 4K through Oppo 203 and I see similar problems on my LG and I have to reboot the Apple TV to get things working properly.
Hence it might well not be a UHD722 problem...


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#277752 - 2018-07-04 00:50 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Jaapaap]
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It’s a UHD722 problem. The pink film occurs when I fire up my Home theater gear whether it's my Xbox One X, PS4, Apple TV 4K, Oppo 203. It’s a HDMI handshake issue which should not be occurring so frequently with today's processors.

Frankly, I’m at my wits end and have instructed my dealer to get a resolution from Meridian ASAP or switch out my gear for a 2018 Anthem processor that doesn’t have these issues.


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#277755 - 2018-07-04 07:18 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Rolski]
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I'm not seeing this problem as yet, but I am getting regular audio failure when I swap channels on my Satellite source, or change sources.
The source / channel change seems to propagate through my system & 'upsets' my Lumagen Radiance Pro, which needs a power cycle to clear the problem.
My evidence that this is UHD722 related is that it never happened with my HD621 and that's the only component that's changed - nothing else whatsoever.


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#277759 - 2018-07-04 11:28 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Rolski]
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As mentioned in my previous post I used to see all these reported problems but since upgrading the cables and power off all devices I don't have the problem either when I first switch on all devices from standby or when switching devices. On latest firmware now which has fixed some problems I had with Satellite Sky SD channels (no sound) and iPlayer downloads from Sky (no sound from 2 channel stereo). So all good for the moment but it's no comfort for you all I know. The big change I found was powering off all devices simultaneously and then back on after new cables were fitted.


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#277765 - 2018-07-04 15:39 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: QuantumBob]
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@QuantumBob
Which is fine if you have any >HD Sources or Devices in the chain e.g. 4K, but if everything was and still is 'standard' (1920*1080) HD, there should be NO effect on functionality.
Zero.
None.

Replacing cables should not be necessary.

There is a problem with UHD722 functionality & it needs to be fixed - it's not currently acceptable as it is.


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#277778 - 2018-07-05 13:12 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Rolski]
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Just be sure to forward the HDMI issues to Meridian with the HDMI device chain and cabling clearly stated.

Also about "Hi-Speed" HDMI cables, not all manufacturers test every HDMI cable shipped, it's economics involved unfortunately.

Changing an integral part of the HDMI chain as the HDMI switch and keeping your old cables does not mean that the old cables will work automatically, you can hope they will but there is no guarantee if they are on the threshold.

@Rolski, the issue with changing channels on a TV-box losing audiolock after the UHD722 compared to the HD621 should really be forwarded officially to Meridian, I think you are on to something that could be done to smooth how things work the sync and audiolock. Maybe the HD621 kept it sinked or padded things differently when the a TV-box abruptly cut the LPCM stream when changing channels.


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#277779 - 2018-07-05 13:29 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Crion]
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+1 when it comes to cables. Use a quality cable that is tested and certified to meet or exceed 18.2 Gbps. I recommend the Tributaries UHD cables as each one is tested before it is shipped. They are excellent quality and are very reasonably priced.


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#277781 - 2018-07-05 14:04 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Considering the price of the unit wouldn't it have made sense for Meridian to have included one HDMI cable they had tested and approved so the customer could see it worked even if their own cables had issues. They could then purchase additional ‘Meridian approved’ cables knowing they worked, the current mess is not doing either users tempers or Meridian's reputation any good at all.


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#277783 - 2018-07-05 14:13 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Ratbert]
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Hear hear.


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#277784 - 2018-07-05 14:19 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Ratbert]
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Maybe so. A good dealer should offer the cables at least at a discount to ensure a smooth transition.


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#277785 - 2018-07-05 14:26 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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I am sure you do Bruce but there are clearly purchasers who have slipped through the net, congratulations on your 4th anniversary by the way.

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Edited by Ratbert; 2018-07-05 15:18.
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#277786 - 2018-07-05 15:22 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Ratbert]
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When the Oppo 203 came out, one of the recurring issues was people using existing cables without realizing the increased bandwidth issues of the new format. The general advice was to buy N+1 cables so that swapping out was an option, just in case you were unfortunate enough to buy a dodgy one.

In the case of the 722, M would have to throw in a couple really, no? Connection from source to 722 and 722 to display. Mind you at 2 grand a pop, probably some margin to do that!

This is all going to repeated when we get 8K pushed at us in the near future. Not looking forward to it!

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#277788 - 2018-07-05 16:06 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Greg Wright]
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Hi Greg

You are probably right suggesting two cables, I suspect in collaboration with someone like Audioquest the net cost would be minimal, didn’t the HD621 come with three ‘high quality phono cables’? So it’s not really setting a precedent.


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#277789 - 2018-07-05 16:34 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Crion]
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@Crion
Meridian are in the loop.

@ ...
It was recommended to use higher-spec HDMI cables due to the higher-bandwidth requirements of 4K etc, but it was not stated as a requirement.
Note : My dealer has been more than helpful / supportive - as always...

However, the point is that if the UHD722 requires use of higher-bandwidth cables, then that's not explicitly stated - and should be.
It could be the case that the UHD722 uses a part of the higher bandwidth / frequency spectrum to initiate lock or communicate or to analyse / pass-on the signal - which then creates the need for higher-capability cabling, but in that case it should be known - and therefore part of the mandatory (minimum) environment / operating parameters.

The use of 4K-compatible cables is a must in a 4K environment / system.
The use of 4K-compatible cables was recommended when exchanging the HD621 for a UHD722 - but was not mandatory.
I don't expect to have to replace anything when going from a full-HD system to a full-HD system with one upgraded component under the basis of simple recommendation - but if I know that the component will fail or render my system dysfunctional if I don't exchange the cabling then that must be made clear from the outset.

It appears that after the initial firmware update all of the other problems experienced were solved by cable updates.
If cable selection is really symptomatic of the problems - and they're not the root-cause - then that should be measurable and repeatable, especially as we're talking about digital technology.

I'm not angry or upset (yet!), but I am annoyed - both by the necessity of regular system hard-reboots but also by the very poor level of error & proof-testing displayed by Meridian.


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#277792 - 2018-07-05 17:46 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Rolski]
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I've updated the firmware on my UHD722 and replaced all the HDMI leads with Audioquest Cinammon (which are 18.2 rated at the lengths I use (< 3m) but this problem still exists even on full HD. (I got so fed up that I leave my Sky Q and Oppo 203 running 1080p until I want to watch something in 4k when I'll switch for the duration of the program and then switch back).

I get the pink film issue probably a couple of times a week on power up. Never had a problem with my HD621. I also get the occasional illegal format msg on my LG OLED.

The cure is always to pull the HDMI cable at the TV end (it's the most accessible) and re-insert. I tried reporting to M via their website and had zero response. Right now I'm seriously considering going Trinnov.

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#277793 - 2018-07-05 20:19 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Gparrington]
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GParrington, do you have a second non-LG TV to see if you get any "pink" handshakes on that as well?

The cure you list, disconnect the LG-TV does sound interesting. But could it be specific to a model or generation of HDMI input boards on LG TV's that would need a second handshake sometimes(?) Can you go into the About menu on the LG-TV and check for Firmware updates?


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#277797 - 2018-07-06 11:47 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Brandon]
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Any of you running the UHD722 with CEC enabled?

Unless you are actively using the ARC functionality, my experience tells me that it can cause a lot of problems when machines from mixed suppliers are trying to work together, even when each machine is excellent by itself, CEC is just a nightmare from a compatibility point of view.

I do not have the UHD722 in my system yet to test this hypothesis, but it's worth a try to see if it improves stability.

I'm almost certain I will experience this problem as well, currently running a 1080 system with a mixed bag of high speed HDMI cables.

I'll report back when I have the UHD722 implemented and updated in my system in a few weeks.


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#277800 - 2018-07-06 13:02 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Crion]
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Crion,

My LG (a 55E6V OLED) is running the latest firmware from LG and ran perfectly fine with the HD621 in place - never had a problem with HDMI handshake; invalid format or pink screen. A straight swap of the HD621 for a UHD722 and the problems started (note this was on the same 1080p settings as I had run the HD621 on).

Learning that the UHD722 was cable picky I swapped to Meridian recommended Audioquest cables which made things slightly better but frankly not much. I've also made sure that CEC is off everywhere.

A general web search reveals that LGs can be a bit troublesome with HDMI but given that my problems only started with the installation of the UHD722 all the fingers point to it.

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#277801 - 2018-07-06 17:31 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Gparrington]
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Not sure if this will help anyone but I have dealt with HDMI handshake issues with my JVC projector in the past when using 4K products and it has been been talked about in avsforum.com threads for awhile.

The most helpful tip besides having high speed cables deal with cable length. Obviously long cable runs (more than 8-9 m) are a problem but so is a short cable.

Using anything less than 2 m length gives handshake issues (at least with the JVC projector).

This may have already been stated and I don’t have the UHD722 to try it out.
Maybe someone can test this out in practice to see if it makes a difference.


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Other: JVC RS-500 projector, Prismasonic HD-5000 anamorphic lens, Panasonic UB900, Oppo BDP-203, QNAP TS-251 (M core and store).
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#278007 - 2018-07-17 23:38 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Meridialien]
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I’ve had my UHD 722 less than two weeks and I’m now experiencing the pink screen. The easiest thing for me to do is unplug the Apple TV and use Android Smart TV instead or plug the Apple TV directly into the tv. I can pass the sound through to the G65 without any processing. Not a whole lot of difference in sound quality.


Oppo 203 4k UHD, Meridian Audio Core 200 & M6 Active Speakers, Sony A1E 65" OLED 4k UHD, U-verse
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#278047 - 2018-07-18 18:54 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Rolski]
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@Rolski

Just an update on my experience. I have updated my cables and installed the latest firmware. Don't ever see the pink screen but do see a white-grey patterned screen sometimes depending on how I switch on (bring out of standby) the various components.

All is well if I

1. Switch on Sony TV
2. Switch on Sky Q or Oppo device
3. Switch on G61R/UHD722

I can then change sources with no bad effects.

However if I switch on the G61R/UHD722 before the other devices then I sometimes get this white-grey screen which can only be cured by switching to the Oppo 203 once or twice OR power cycling the G61R/UHD722.

Not good but I can cope.

I'm assuming some of the problems are associated more with my Sony TV which is 4k but a late 2015 model. It has its own peculiar flakiness. During the recent BBC 4k trials for the World Cup / Wimbledon the TV was not listed as compliant with the BBC's 4k HDR requirements. Fortunately during Wimbledon Sky Q was transmitting a 4k channel which I could receive.

I am happy with the UHD722 for the moment and trust M will solve all these gremlins eventually.

Bob


G61RSL, UHD722, 5200s, 5200HC, 3200s, DSW, Sony 55X8509, Sky Q Silver, Oppo 105, Oppo 203
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#278815 - 2018-09-09 12:23 Re: Pink ”film” on picture, UHD722 [Re: Aibo1]
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Hey guys,
I've had the UHD722 in my system for a bit more than a month now and thought I'd write a bit about my experience with it.

The machine looks rather sleek in my setup despite my initial concerns about how the new Meridian "installer" line products are built. It's not exactly a Boothroyd design with anodized aluminium, but it's nice and minimalistic and kind of melts into my shelf as a pure utility machine.
I love that all LEDs can be turned off and on for cinema night.

After updating it to the latest firmware 1.0.8, the machine has worked without any hiccups in my setup. I'm currently only using it for 1080 content and running it with a mishmash of HDMI cables ranging from cheap supermarket slim-line HDMI to Audioquest pearl HDMI cables. The longest run being a cheap 5m HDMI cable to my TV.

I primarily use my Oppo UDP-203 blu-ray player and AppleTV 4K, and a mix of current gen consoles. There hasnt been even a single glitch in the matrix, no pink noise, static of any kind.

CEC has been disabled on all of my devices including the UHD722.

Perhaps I was lucky with mine, but i thought it could also be a case of the squeaky wheel gets the oil and most people who run with no issues dont bother posting about it. So this one was a success story.





G61RSL, 598, DSP5200SE, DSP5000C.2 ,UHD722, 2x JL-Audio E112.
Edited by Aibo1; 2018-09-09 12:38.
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