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#276426 - 2018-05-27 20:30 There is a clear and deep interview with Bob about MQA at Darko
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#276492 - 2018-05-31 11:09 Re: There is a clear and deep interview with Bob about MQA at Darko [Re: JimK]
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Thanks. Fascinating interviews.

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Priceless.


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#277343 - 2018-06-19 21:07 Re: There is a clear and deep interview with Bob about MQA at Darko [Re: 3dit0r]
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MQA CDS

Just noticed some upcoming MQA CDs on cdjapan include the Stones' 'Sticky Fingers'

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#277346 - 2018-06-19 22:02 Re: There is a clear and deep interview with Bob about MQA at Darko [Re: Meridialien]
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This is great news. I’ve been vocal about wanting MQA to release more material to actually buy (I’ve still found relatively little of what’s available on Tidal Masters to actually purchase). Perhaps this might be a first step to wider sales...?


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#277356 - 2018-06-20 08:37 Re: There is a clear and deep interview with Bob about MQA at Darko [Re: 3dit0r]
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As longs as you have an 808.6

Also, if you rip an MQA CD to import to Sooloos, do you lose the MQA'ness?


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#277357 - 2018-06-20 08:52 Re: There is a clear and deep interview with Bob about MQA at Darko [Re: Greg Wright]
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I was hoping/assuming that ripping would preserve MQA. Increasingly fewer people are running disc spinners these days.

Don’t get me wrong, I hope MQA will increasingly release all available material as downloads for purchase, I just hope this is a sign the format is gaining a wider market.


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#277358 - 2018-06-20 08:53 Re: There is a clear and deep interview with Bob about MQA at Darko [Re: Greg Wright]
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Quote:
Also, if you rip an MQA cd to import to Sooloos, do you lose the MQA'ness?
Good question, import to Sooloos or rip to FLAC will hopefully retain the MQA data?


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#277359 - 2018-06-20 09:08 Re: There is a clear and deep interview with Bob about MQA at Darko [Re: 3dit0r]
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Originally Posted By 3dit0r
Don’t get me wrong, I hope MQA will increasingly release all available material as downloads for purchase, I just hope this is a sign the format is gaining a wider market.
The problem is, any attempt at selling HiRez masters in the past has been seen as a way of charging more(see footnote).

This won't encourage take up. It has to be a zero cost game to ensure mass market acceptance.

If we get to the stage where every CD released is in MQA and has the option to download an MQA version for download, I can see this succeeding.

Do Tidal publish the split between how many subscribe to the standard and HiFi plans?

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We all know the masters these days are 96/24 in the studio. Maybe more. Yet, we get charged more for the FLAC than the MP3. Which requires extra processing. Doesn't make sense except in the knowledge that audio heads will accept being ripped off. This culture has to change.


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#277360 - 2018-06-20 09:30 Re: There is a clear and deep interview with Bob about MQA at Darko [Re: Greg Wright]
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+1

Could an explanation for the usual extra charge for hi-res downloads be justified due to the increased bandwidth required (which in the case of non-MQA hi-res might be quite a considerable difference)?

This could be an advantage to MQA, if it's not used as an excuse to charge more just for the heck of it. Although I suspect there would have to be a soak up of the costs of remastering older releases in MQA/white glove treatments, new releases could presumably incur no extra costs up front.


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#277362 - 2018-06-20 09:43 Re: There is a clear and deep interview with Bob about MQA at Darko [Re: 3dit0r]
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Tracks on a CD are not FLAC files. But, I would expect a bit-perfect CD ripper to take all bits (music and buried/folded MQA data) and present them into a FLAC container. A ripper won't know what is music sample and what is MQA data.

What I think a ripper won't do is add tags like 'originalsamplerate' and 'MQAencoder' etc

These may be needed for Sooloos or Roon so a user may have to manually add these tags for each rip.

If anyone has an MQA CD (I don't) it should be easy to test this.


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#277364 - 2018-06-20 09:46 Re: There is a clear and deep interview with Bob about MQA at Darko [Re: ncpl]
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and looking at the prices I don't think I will be getting any MQA CD's either



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#277367 - 2018-06-20 10:08 Re: There is a clear and deep interview with Bob about MQA at Darko [Re: ncpl]
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That's the first time I've seen a new CD release cheaper than a new vinyl release... cry


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