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#276332 - 2018-05-24 23:30 Tracks for testing?
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Which tracks do you use for testing imaging, treble (harshness, "air", etc) or bass (boominess, accuracy, etc...)

Should be a fun discussion, and also a good way to find new music. smile

I'd prefer tracks found on Tidal, but of course that's not absolutely necessary...

Cheers,

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#276335 - 2018-05-25 06:14 Re: Tracks for testing? [Re: Rick415]
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You really should listen to Shelby Lynne ‘Just a Little Lovin’ in MQA from Tidal. Especially the title track.
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#276356 - 2018-05-25 17:02 Re: Tracks for testing? [Re: Rick415]
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Pretty much anything MQA from Sean Rowe.
Madman is a good place to start followed by Shine My Diamond Ring etc....
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#276361 - 2018-05-25 21:26 Re: Tracks for testing? [Re: Hector]
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Any track on Dire Straits' Brothers in Arms (24/96 version) especially the title track and 'Ride Across the River'. Also, Dire Straits' 'My Parties'


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#276376 - 2018-05-26 09:14 Re: Tracks for testing? [Re: Rick415]
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Originally Posted By Rick415
Which tracks do you use for testing imaging, treble (harshness, "air", etc) or bass (boominess, accuracy, etc...)
I must be weird because I use test tones, sweeps and REW to check for and correct anomalies...

What I do have are a selection of tracks that sound really good, but these tend to flatter, rather than criticise the system’s performance, I suspect the above tracks are the same?

What you need is a system killer track that makes 90% of systems sound broken, but most will dismiss those tracks; it was easier in the analogue days to find a record with a high modulation track at the end of side that would show up the turntable, arm and cartridge’s tracking ability.

I’ll return and list some songs later...

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#276377 - 2018-05-26 09:21 Re: Tracks for testing? [Re: Syles]
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Originally Posted By Syles
What you need is a system killer track that makes 90% of systems sound broken, but most will dismiss those tracks; it was easier in the analogue days to find a record with a high modulation track at the end of side that would show up the turntable, arm and cartridge’s tracking ability.
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#276387 - 2018-05-26 15:06 Re: Tracks for testing? [Re: Rick415]
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He Xun-Tian - Paramita especially track 7, "Earth Drums" Good for everything from Dynamics, Harmonics, treble, and imaging. It's available to listen to on it YouTube if you want a taster of it.

Peter Gabriel - Passion (RWCD1) Especially track 1, "The feeling begins" as above, dynamics, bass, harmonics, airiness, you name it. Starts slowly then gradually builds towards a breathtaking crescendo at the very end. Phenomenal track IMO.

Prokofiev - Peter and the Wolf. Sir John Gielgud narrated two versions. The RPO "High Quality Audiophile Edition" from Centurian Music Recorded at CTS studios is, without any doubt, aweful. The version I'm taking of is the 1989 Virgin Classics version with the Academy of London under Richard Stamp, recorded at Abbey Road. It's unbelievably the better version, I'd say most definitely an 'audiophile' version, unlike the wanna be Centurian recording. Imaging is superb as is the frequency extension, both in the lower and upper octaves. And the sound of the Timpani, pure heavan. Sir Gielguds voice is sublime. On the Centurian version it sounds like he's got a sore throat! It's quite a complicated multi layered composition in places which can sound quite muddled on the wrong system or at the wrong volume.

Beethoven - "Wellington's Victory" On Telarc (CD80079) Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra under Erich Kunzel. On the score, Beethoven indicated the exact position that each instrument should be placed, and this recording faithfully recreates that. As you can imagine, stereo imaging and depth is superb. It's basically a stage play for orchestra with the musicians as the actors. Close your eyes and be there in the middle of the battlefield.

Talking about depth and imaging, The Cowboy Junkies Trinity Sessions, recorded with the musicians all sat in a circle around a Calrec Soundfield Mic. This recording should be mandatory in everyone's music collection. There is so much to hear on this recording, from the acoustics of the church it was recorded in to the delicate sounds of foot tapping.

Lastly, I have to include an atrocious recording of one of the worlds best ever sax solos - played by Wesley Magoogan on the track "Will you" from the Breaking Glass soundtrack. I think that's where this succeeds as a test track, bad recording of a sublime sax. So it's simultaneously awful and superb, but in different ways. The better the system the worse and better it sounds at the same time!

There are some more tracks, but I can't think of them at the moment. Those are my main test tracks.

Ali.


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