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#276072 - 2018-05-16 12:34 Yanny or Laurel
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Well this this makes a mockery of some hi-fi testing and/or assertions surely. Personally, I'm a Yanny.


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#276073 - 2018-05-16 13:10 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: DuncanBudd]
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Depending on how fast it’s played - normal speed I'm a yanny but could be a laurel when played at wrong speed - see tweet further down.


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#276074 - 2018-05-16 13:35 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: Ian]
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Laurel for me. I couldn't even think it into Yanny.


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#276075 - 2018-05-16 13:39 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: Ian]
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OMG.

I've just gone back to it after a couple of hours and I now hear Laurel. Same seat, computer, and headphones. Just couple of hours later.

This may back up my own personal observations that my hearing can vary dramatically at different times of the day - always best first thing in the morning - far better than any upgrade that I have ever done.

As Duncan says, makes a mockery of some testing.

Or someone could just be pointing the tweet to an audio file that changes randomly between the two...

[edit]And now two hours later, I'm back to Yanny


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Edited by Ian; 2018-05-16 14:51. Edit Reason: 2 hours later
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#276076 - 2018-05-16 13:50 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: Ian]
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Well, I heard this on BBC 5 Live earlier and it was Laurel via my Bluesound Pulse. Now via the link and explorer 2, it’s Yannie.


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#276079 - 2018-05-16 14:48 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: ChrisLayerUK]
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Yanny has not been heard here via my mac. However the pigeons nesting in the Laurel clearly state that "My Toes Bleeding Betty"
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#276081 - 2018-05-16 15:09 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: Hector]
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Ok, It’s Laurel on BBC 5 Live and then quick to the link above and it’s also Laurel. It was Yanny earlier... MQA anyone?


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#276083 - 2018-05-16 15:29 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: ChrisLayerUK]
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My 1990's Readers Digest free headphones here at work and carp Dell soundcard doesn't do MQA - so it can't be that.


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#276084 - 2018-05-16 15:38 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: Ian]
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Ok I played it to SWMBO and we both heard Yanny. Now; I played it again and I hear Laurel and SWMBO swears it’s still Yanny.


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#276089 - 2018-05-16 17:30 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: ChrisLayerUK]
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Apparently people with high frequency bias hear Yanny, those with low frequency bias hear Laurel.

Not sure what it means for us that hear different version at different times.


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#276100 - 2018-05-16 21:45 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: Ian]
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Originally Posted By Ian
Not sure what it means for us that hear different version at different times.
Hearing changes measurably through the day, and is affected by tiredness. So I've been told.

Yanny, btw.


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#276101 - 2018-05-16 22:15 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: Ludwig]
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It's now Yanrel. I can hear it start Yanny but end ..rel. I have had a couple of whiskies though.


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#276103 - 2018-05-17 06:49 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: Chris G]
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#276106 - 2018-05-17 07:39 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: GMT]
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I'm not getting Yanny at all!


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#276107 - 2018-05-17 07:44 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: Ludwig]
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Originally Posted By Ludwig
Originally Posted By Ian
Not sure what it means for us that hear different version at different times.
Hearing changes measurably through the day, and is affected by tiredness. So I've been told.

Yanny, btw.
Which again backs up my experience of listening at 5am beats any system upgrade that I have ever heard.


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#276111 - 2018-05-17 08:32 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: Ian]
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I hear something like "yearly"


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#276123 - 2018-05-17 14:31 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: ncpl]
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I hear Laurel, my other half hears Yanny. It seems likely that there will be other Yanny\Laurel analogues in music. I wonder if a ‘Yanny’ person likes different HiFi system sound to a ‘Laurel’ person.


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#276172 - 2018-05-18 15:18 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: Cliff.]
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Another one... You can hear the words ‘Brainstorm’ or ‘Green Needle’ based on which word you think about.

I couldn't - I just heard Brainstorm no matter what I thought.


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#276183 - 2018-05-18 19:15 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: Chris G]
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All I could hear was green needle. Tried to get brain storm but kept hearing 3 syllables


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#276196 - 2018-05-19 07:00 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: Struttmaster]
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All here hear green needle - or similar before I told them the options


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#276202 - 2018-05-19 13:18 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: Chris G]
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I can switch between those two.
And today I played the YvL to some folk and heard Laurel for the first time. Go figure.


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#276610 - 2018-06-02 22:20 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: DuncanBudd]
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I had posted this in a another thread but was deleted rather than simply merge it into this one.

This site has a slider to adjust gradually towards Yanny or Laurel.

They not changing the speed it's played at, they are increasing/decreasing High or Low frequencies.

I'm in Laurel camp I hear both at the 2nd to last step and all Yanny on the last step.


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#276613 - 2018-06-02 23:45 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: Fiddler]
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Originally Posted By Fiddler
I had posted this in a another thread but was deleted rather than simply merge it into this one.
You ‘forgot’ to mention that I PMed you ...
Originally Posted By Carl
Hi George,

You’re a bit late to the party on this one, so I’ve pulled it.

See Yanny or Laurel there’s some interesting posts ... please feel free to contribute in the context of that topic.

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This gave you the opportunity to adjust your original post as you saw fit ... which I see you have done.


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#276625 - 2018-06-03 14:11 Re: Yanny or Laurel [Re: Carl]
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So your definition of “adjust” my “original” means you delete it, and I write a new one?

Thanks for the PM that you “pulled” it.


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