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#276351 - 2018-05-25 15:04 Re: DSP5200SE and 218 - Oh B*gger [Re: 3dit0r]
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So next week I will be doing some demo's

The 5200SE and probably also 218 will most likely end up being for sale.

I want to listen to music in my living room, not in a cramped upstairs bedroom with the 5200's shoe horned in.

Some respite has arrived in the form of Acoustic Energy AE1's driven by an old Denon amp and using the 218 as a source.

I've Always liked the AE1 and it is very good for this sort of shelf/alcove siting as it's front ported, and does sound musical and dynamic for it's size.

A bit of a come down, but I'm going to take the AE's to my dealer to try with Devialet and Naim amps.

If anyone can recommend a good front ported speaker below 40cm high(another bloomin restriction due to the shelf above) I'm interested to know.

I might go to town with an amp and upgrade the speakers later, as the AE1's do sound good in this room even on a budget amp.

They are also on the SAM list for devialet which calims that tehre will be more control and protection, lower bass etc etc so it will be interesting to see if thats true!

Maybe I'll hate devialet, I used to a be a Naim person until not that long ago btw!

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#276360 - 2018-05-25 19:55 Re: DSP5200SE and 218 - Oh B*gger [Re: UrQuattroGus]
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I have some Harbeth Compact 7es3 which I think are superb. They are around 50cm high, though, so perhaps the Harbeth Monitor 30.2 (domestic) would suit, they certainly garner equally rave reviews. Both are front ported. I get no bass boom from my C7es3 whatsoever and they are on the end of a pseudo-Naim amp, to boot.


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#276398 - 2018-05-26 22:42 Re: DSP5200SE and 218 - Oh B*gger [Re: 3dit0r]
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Thanks, I’ve never heard Harbeths, but they do appeal! Unfortunately even the 30.2 is too high for the measly gal I have.

The active AVI DM12 looks like a runner, front ported and 380cm high, £3k, just need to hear what they can or can’t do...

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#276407 - 2018-05-27 10:06 Re: DSP5200SE and 218 - Oh B*gger [Re: UrQuattroGus]
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Oh dear, yes that’s a very small space. The only Harbeth which would fit is the P3-ESR which I’ve not heard (but rave reviews). IMO you’d need a sub for any kind of bass though, but that’s probably true of almost all speakers that small, unless you go with a small DSP like a 3200 or a 3100.

Alternatively, since cosmetics are the issue, have you considered the Meridian in-wall options (520, 640, etc.)?

Interested to hear how you get in with the AVI.


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#276443 - 2018-05-29 11:30 Re: DSP5200SE and 218 - Oh B*gger [Re: 3dit0r]
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Thanks, yes, the P3-ESR I think will just be too bass light unless I go for a sub.

The AE1's have a lot of punch and slam for their size.

Going to Dem PMC twenty5.21 which are front ported transmission line etc

AVI wise it's hard to hear a pair, but tempting to just go for it.

Had AVI amps and speakers that I've enjoyed in the past...

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#276455 - 2018-05-30 00:27 Re: DSP5200SE and 218 - Oh B*gger [Re: UrQuattroGus]
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3200’s and a sub?

If you decide to sell the 5200’s please let me know.

Cheers,

Rick


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#276465 - 2018-05-30 17:22 Re: DSP5200SE and 218 - Oh B*gger [Re: ncpl]
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Nick I was seriously thinking about writing something like this but I hesitated...
Well done you brave man!


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#276467 - 2018-05-30 18:28 Re: DSP5200SE and 218 - Oh B*gger [Re: Mermad]
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Demo'd PMC Twenty5.21 on Naim Uniti Nova.

Good god I hated the sound of those PMC's!

Thin, harsh and bright.

Yuck.

In desperation tried the Focal Aria 906, a cheaper but still front ported speaker that would just about fit.

Much more likeable sound.

Then plugged the Aria 906 into a NAD Masters Pre Power system, as was not sure how good the Uniti Nova is (its a 80WPC all in one at 4200 quid)

By god, what an improvement, the only thing I heard that I could actually consider buying, but a lot of boxes.

They do an integrated (M32) with 150 WPC and integrated DAC that can act as roon endpoint, so thats on the shortlist.

Going to try the Devialet and some other speakers this Friday....

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#276468 - 2018-05-30 18:30 Re: DSP5200SE and 218 - Oh B*gger [Re: Mermad]
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3200s and a DSW make very nice sounds...


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#276469 - 2018-05-30 18:40 Re: DSP5200SE and 218 - Oh B*gger [Re: 3dit0r]
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Thanks guys will try to dem the 3200 pref with the DSW too

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#276470 - 2018-05-30 18:53 Re: DSP5200SE and 218 - Oh B*gger [Re: UrQuattroGus]
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This is the problem, I’ve demoed a lot of gear, but once you are used to Meridian DSPs much modern gear sounds a bit thin and/or harsh. Those DSPs have exceptional bass response for the cabinet size and sound effortless and undistorted by virtue of being active and digital to the box. It’s a very hard act to follow...


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#276487 - 2018-05-31 08:38 Re: DSP5200SE and 218 - Oh B*gger [Re: 3dit0r]
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The somewhat controversial Ashley at AVI claims that:

DN12s are a very close match to HD800s for clarity, smoothness and balance, but with a really exceptional stereo image.

I think the Dm12’s Will sound good, but there is also some skepticism, and it seems I have to travel a long way to hear a pair...

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