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#276241 - 2018-05-21 13:02 Re: DSP5500 are they a good purchase in today’s Hifi World? [Re: StuWils]
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Originally Posted By StuWils
Remember to take the side panels off for transportation as at 13 stone each the are easy to ding.

Originally Posted By Not'arf
no need for the incredibly heavy steel side-panels (no-one runs CRT tellies any more)
I have never thought of that, brilliant! Are the panels used solely to not mess up CRTs?
Can the speakers be used without much change in the sound without the panels?

I have a Projector screen that would benefit greatly if I could lower the HC by 2 inches.


1) 861v4, 218, 7K's, 5K5HC, 4x420's, D2500, moded Oppo BDP-103, Epson5020 FP
2) 568.2mm, DSP33 trio, Reviver in from MS200
3) 561, ms200, HK PA4000 house distribution
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#276244 - 2018-05-21 16:34 Re: DSP5500 are they a good purchase in today’s Hifi World? [Re: Gcap]
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I would keep them on, it gives additional bracing to the large resonant sides.

Rgds
Stuart


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#276246 - 2018-05-21 17:35 Re: DSP5500 are they a good purchase in today’s Hifi World? [Re: StuWils]
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I've heard the 'bracing' argument once before (was it Fiddler?) but remain unconvinced. Having said that I've never A-B'd them with / without but I'd be surprised if there was a noticeable difference in SQ. Possibly there might be an effect at high volumes.

Re Gcap's welcome appreciation of my CRT-related point, Yes, my understanding is that was the sole reason for the inclusion of the steel panels. They may aid stiffening (see above grin) but if stiffening was the requirement, steel panels wouldn't have been the answer; bracing could have been achieved much more cheaply without having to resort to X kgs of steel & all the associated shipping costs. The steel is there to prevent adverse impact on CRT image quality.


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#276262 - 2018-05-22 10:58 Re: DSP5500 are they a good purchase in today’s Hifi World? [Re: Awb]
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I've stumbled upon a very good offer for a used 5.0 DSP5500 set (smiley edition).
I'm thinking about replacing my current Genelec active speakers, but I wonder if the DSP5500 are strong enough for watching movies in my room (8m x 4m x 3m).

Genelec 1038A
Free field frequency response: 35 Hz - 20 kHz (±2.5 dB)
Maximum short term sine wave acoustic output on axis in half space, averaged from 100 Hz to 3 kHz: @1m >120 dB SPL
Maximum long term RMS acoustic output in same conditions with IEC-weighted noise (limited by driver unit protection circuit): @1m >116 dB SPL
Maximum peak acoustic output per pair @2m from the engineer with music material: >124 dB SPL
Bass 385mm (15") cone (400W)
Mid 130 mm (5") cone (120W)
Treble 25mm (1") metal dome (120W)

DSP5500
Frequency response in-room within 3dB from 30Hz to over 20kHz
Output >112dB spl @1m on music material
2 x 200mm long-throw bass drivers
1 x 160mm polypropylene mid driver in separate enclosure
1 x 25mm aluminium-dome tweeter, silver wire, short hornloaded with protective grille
Four 75W power amplifiers, one for each of the drivers

Now: 861v4 with 2x OA13, Genelec 1038A, 1038AC, 1037B, sub 2x 7071A
Future: 861v4 with OE12 & OA13, DSP5500, DSP5500HC, DSP5500, sub 2x 7071A



861v4, HD621, Oppo203, 5x DSP5500, 2x Genelec 7071 sub, Sony VPL-VW550ES, http://cellarcinema.info
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#276263 - 2018-05-22 11:10 Re: DSP5500 are they a good purchase in today’s Hifi World? [Re: thuety]
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One big difference is that the Genelec's are active and therefore require a line level or balanced analogue signal. The DSP 5500s require a digital input.

You don't mention what processor you are using.


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#276265 - 2018-05-22 12:18 Re: DSP5500 are they a good purchase in today’s Hifi World? [Re: Tarik]
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Sorry about that.

My main 861v4 currently has two OA13 (balanced), but luckily I have a OE12 I can take from my spare.

I read through the very interesting Meridian Loudspeakers: The DSP Path I thought that active speakers were the most energy efficient, but digital seems even more so.


861v4, HD621, Oppo203, 5x DSP5500, 2x Genelec 7071 sub, Sony VPL-VW550ES, http://cellarcinema.info
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#276266 - 2018-05-22 12:21 Re: DSP5500 are they a good purchase in today’s Hifi World? [Re: thuety]
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Originally Posted By thuety
Genelec 1038A: Maximum peak acoustic output per pair @2m from the engineer with music material: >124 dB SPL

DSP5500: Output >112dB spl @1m on music material

124dB @2m vs 112dB@1m or 130dB vs 112dB at the same distance; 18dB difference in absolute loudness or nearly 4 times the perceived loudness.

But that is like maximum speed in a car, not relevant unless you go there...


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#276271 - 2018-05-22 15:50 Re: DSP5500 are they a good purchase in today’s Hifi World? [Re: Awb]
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Well I’ve finally got them in my living room, boy was that a struggle carrying them up a flight of stairs!. Ain’t got the energy to rig them up yet though.


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#276305 - 2018-05-24 12:11 Re: DSP5500 are they a good purchase in today’s Hifi World? [Re: Syles]
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Syles,

Genelec has an active overload protection to prevent damage on high levels.

In Mconfig I could set the size to max, so no limitation on the signal side.
It seems that DSP don't have the size option in Mconfig.
What happens with the Meridian DSP when you reach the max dB level?


861v4, HD621, Oppo203, 5x DSP5500, 2x Genelec 7071 sub, Sony VPL-VW550ES, http://cellarcinema.info
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#276314 - 2018-05-24 14:39 Re: DSP5500 are they a good purchase in today’s Hifi World? [Re: thuety]
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Originally Posted By thuety
What happens with the Meridian DSP when you reach the max dB level?
Meridian DSP Speakers have built-in protection and will self-limit to avoid overdriving the drivers.

That said they rairly need to be pushed that hard.

Regards,
Carl


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#276317 - 2018-05-24 14:56 Re: DSP5500 are they a good purchase in today’s Hifi World? [Re: Syles]
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Going there often will result in a very short time being an audiophile.


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#276320 - 2018-05-24 16:22 Re: DSP5500 are they a good purchase in today’s Hifi World? [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Pardon, didn’t quite catch that wink


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