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#275860 - 2018-05-08 19:10 Re: Roon 1.5 is here, c/w MQA software decoding [Re: NeilF]
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Originally Posted By NeilF
Previously, when I played one through my DSP5200SEs, the display read MHR, and when I played the other version, the display read MQA.
Hi Neil,

Your signature box list an 818.2 but that can’t decode MQA ... so I wondering what device in the chain is performing the decode.

What device are you using to feed to your SE speaker?
Is you sig. box upto date?

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#275861 - 2018-05-08 19:13 Re: Roon 1.5 is here, c/w MQA software decoding [Re: JCD]
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Thank you John - that's sorted it!

I wish I better understood the technicalities of this stuff, but whilst I've been excited by the excitement generated by Roon V1.5 on this thread, I must confess I've no idea what it is I am supposed to be excited about...

Neil


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#275862 - 2018-05-08 19:14 Re: Roon 1.5 is here, c/w MQA software decoding [Re: James_L]
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Originally Posted By James_L
Would there be a noticeable difference?
Just wondering whether I'm missing out with my legacy speakers!
SE speaker are quite a step up in performance, with or without MQA in the mix.

I’d recommend auditioning a pair, but don’t tell you wallet wink

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#275863 - 2018-05-08 19:15 Re: Roon 1.5 is here, c/w MQA software decoding [Re: Carl]
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Hi Carl

I've just upgraded my profile (I'd previously upgraded my 818 to a v3).

Cheers, Neil


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Edited by NeilF; 2018-05-08 19:19.
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#275864 - 2018-05-08 19:18 Re: Roon 1.5 is here, c/w MQA software decoding [Re: NeilF]
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818v3 ... cool ... now all the dots line up smile


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#275868 - 2018-05-08 23:43 Re: MQA Unfold on Roon! [Re: Ratbert]
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I’m loving the fact we now have an MQA icon and I believe bringing MQA ‘to the masses’ can only be a good thing.

Just don’t forget to turn the decoding off in Roon if you have an 818v3 as it can’t currently render partially decoded MQA to its full potential.


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#275869 - 2018-05-09 05:37 Re: MQA Unfold on Roon! [Re: Jeremy A-H]
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You don’t actually need to turn it off manually. Roon knows what the 818 can do and behaves accordingly.


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#275870 - 2018-05-09 05:46 Re: MQA Unfold on Roon! [Re: ncpl]
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Originally Posted By ncpl
You don’t actually need to turn it off manually. Roon knows what the 818 can do and behaves accordingly.
Yes, ensure that it's set to "Decoder and Renderer". If you don't use DSP (including volume normalisation) then the MQA stream is delivered bit-perfectly to the 818. OTOH, if you want to use DSP, you get the first decode in Roon plus the DSP (but currently no subsequent unfold/rendering in the 818).

But I can say, as someone who uses room correction, that first unfold + room correction + no rendering sounds so much better in my room than full unfold and no room correction.

Hopefully soon, with firmware updates from Meridan, we'll be able to have our cake and eat it.


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#275876 - 2018-05-09 12:22 Re: MQA Unfold on Roon! [Re: VirusKiller]
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Interestingly when Roon 1.5 was released representatives from different manufacturers with MQA devices were present online on the Roon forum to answer direct questions or offer advice to users, Peter Lie from Lumin, Andrew from DCS to name two.

In the case of Andrew a DCS issue was discovered and he made it known what it was, what was being done to fix it and the update was released this morning.

By contrast Meridian were not present in any noticeable way and despite the issues with rendering as explained by Joel here and by the Roon team on the Roon forum silence has been maintained.

No communication on roadmaps is understandable perhaps but no communication on anything either directly or via Premier Dealers is really not good enough.


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#275882 - 2018-05-09 14:13 Re: Roon 1.5 is here, c/w MQA software decoding [Re: VirusKiller]
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Tidal MQA file > Roon core 1.5 decoding > DSP application (in this case, Audeze filter) > RPI or Allo endpoint > iFI iDSD BL Nano DAC rendering with magenta light does work for me.

Decoding in Roon sent directly (no DSP) to Explorer², 218 and/or SE speakers does not work.
Does anyone know that Meridian is actually planning to fix this? Someday soon?


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#275883 - 2018-05-09 14:17 Re: Roon 1.5 is here, c/w MQA software decoding [Re: OldDogCan]
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According to a post on this Roon thread from John on the Roon team, yes.


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#276342 - 2018-05-25 13:07 Re: MQA Unfold on Roon! [Re: Ratbert]
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Originally Posted By Ratbert
Interestingly when Roon 1.5 was released representatives from different manufacturers with MQA devices were present online on the Roon forum to answer direct questions or offer advice to users, Peter Lie from Lumin, Andrew from DCS to name two.

In the case of Andrew a DCS issue was discovered and he made it known what it was, what was being done to fix it and the update was released this morning.

By contrast Meridian were not present in any noticeable way and despite the issues with rendering as explained by Joel here and by the Roon team on the Roon forum silence has been maintained.

No communication on roadmaps is understandable perhaps but no communication on anything either directly or via Premier Dealers is really not good enough.
I agree. Times have moved on and users expect this kind of presence and feedback these days. I worry it doesn't do the brand any favours.


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