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#276700 - 2018-06-05 11:30 Re: QLED or OLED [Re: Jon Raines]
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Hi Jon

That's really interesting. I have an early generation LG OLED which delights on a daily basis, so I'm interested to hear where you find the pros and cons lie between each? I'm not currently in the market, but intrigued as OLED is so often held up as the gold standard display technology. Also wondering how they compare with olde worlde 1080 24p sources like Bluray? (I have no UHD inclinations at present!)

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#276763 - 2018-06-07 08:42 Re: QLED or OLED [Re: Mr Meridian]
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One thing to do with OLED, which goes against the grain of nearly every review and calibrator, in the UK anyway, is turn the OLED backlight up to around 95 and then turn the contrast to around 60-65.
Most do it the other way round, so OLED light on 40ish and contrast on 85 or something.
The problem with that is the brightness limiter kicks in too quickly, so get a scene of snow and it no longer pops.


So set it for one of the ISF modes and then try the above.


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#276764 - 2018-06-07 08:54 Re: QLED or OLED [Re: gIzzE]
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I thought the whole point of OLED was that it didn't have a backlight.


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#276766 - 2018-06-07 09:51 Re: QLED or OLED [Re: Neil H]
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It doesn't, but you can still adjust how bright/hard you drive each pixel, which is effected by 'OLED Light' and 'Contrast'.


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#276779 - 2018-06-07 12:50 Re: QLED or OLED [Re: gIzzE]
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Originally Posted By gIzzE
So set it for one of the ISF modes and then try the above.
Definitely good advice. I also found the default white balance way too warm. Looked very odd.

Id have a google for 'optimum tv settings' for the model number of your tv. Normally something comes up on avforums. Then use that as a starting point.

Or buy a calibrator, but that could be another rabbit warren......!


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#276780 - 2018-06-07 13:11 Re: QLED or OLED [Re: Greg Wright]
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I have no doubt that the OLED isn’t a cabable machine but not straight out of the box as the QLED was,
It certainly doesn’t “pop” like the Samsung but some could say it looks a little fake whereas the LG is more natural.
Now this could be the source material that I’m using ie skyq,Netflix and prime,looks like it’s in need of a professional calibrator.....any recommendations for the Cambridgeshire area.

Jonathan


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#276781 - 2018-06-07 13:22 Re: QLED or OLED [Re: Jon Raines]
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John, have you tried adjusting the settings like I said with OLED light and Contrast.

Do that before going further, to me OLED is far too dull otherwise.


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#276783 - 2018-06-07 13:35 Re: QLED or OLED [Re: gIzzE]
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Yes, just this second, I've been tinkering since it ve had it but haven’t really settled on any concrete settings as yet.

The settings you recommend do make a difference but I’m expert on such things so more tinkering required or a professional calibrator.

It’s a shame about the Samsung it had many things that I liked about it, but just too glitchy until a new firmware arrives.

Jonathan


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#276785 - 2018-06-07 13:49 Re: QLED or OLED [Re: Jon Raines]
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Jon

Are these settings of any interest, might be worth giving them a try?

Russ


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#276786 - 2018-06-07 14:00 Re: QLED or OLED [Re: Ratbert]
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Thanks for posting those Russ, I’ve seen similar darted all over the net and didn’t really pay attention thinking each has a different viewing experience, maybe I should check if any 2018 C8 settings have appeared on AVforums yet.

Jonathan


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#276795 - 2018-06-07 17:06 Re: QLED or OLED [Re: Jon Raines]
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I had my Pio Kuro 50” ISF calibrated a few years ago. When that screen finally dies I will get whatever the next screen is calibrated as well. I thought I had tweaked it myself ok but I was embarrassed to see just how far off I was.

Would be good to know if the latest OLED screens can be calibrated in the same way to yield similar results.


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#276796 - 2018-06-07 17:20 Re: QLED or OLED [Re: ncpl]
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Who did it and what was the cost?


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