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#275029 - 2018-04-11 07:36 DSP8000s Comparison of 218 vs. Sonos sources
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I just got my Meridian 218 yesterday and play MQA and other TIDAL files on it, I have to say that DSP8000 speakers paired with Meridian source give is a huge performance upgrade!

When I connected to other source the speakers were "OK", for example I connected it to Sonos connect but the sounds was flat ... and not hi-end but then when I go back to a Meridian product eg. 218 ,,, other it’s just a WIFI streamer basically ! the sonic improvement was massive!

It’s interesting to see how Meridian’s line of product needs to be consistently used to keep the Meridian sounding its best!

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#275037 - 2018-04-11 10:56 Re: DSP8000s Comparison of 218 vs. Sonos sources [Re: 911turbos]
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I think Sonos will sound flat on any high end speaker system, especially if you are playing lossy music.

I have previously used MacMini with an asynchronous USB connector and playing FLAC via Pure Music and it sounded great. But I prefer Sooloos via an ID41 card!

But yes, Meridian have been building high end hifi for 40 years.

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#275038 - 2018-04-11 11:17 Re: DSP8000s Comparison of 218 vs. Sonos sources [Re: 911turbos]
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It will be even better when you update those 8ks to SE.


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#275046 - 2018-04-11 16:06 Re: DSP8000s Comparison of 218 vs. Sonos sources [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Although the upgrade itself costs more than a pretty hot amp and speaker combo... If money’s no object though...

I don’t think Meridian would claim to be the top end digital source, it would be interesting to know how some of the top end sources sound through 8ks.

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#275047 - 2018-04-11 16:20 Re: DSP8000s Comparison of 218 vs. Sonos sources [Re: 911turbos]
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IMO, the 218 is an underrated product around here. Having owned an 818v3, I think the 218 is every bit as good when used to feed DSP speakers. And I agree that upgrading your 8000's to SE status (which I did) will make your system that much better.

One piece of advice -- I found the 218 is sensitive to vibration, so if you can physically isolate it, you will hear even greater improvement. I have mine in a cabinet, sitting on a Harmonic Resolution Systems platform and Nordost TC Sort Kones, and damped with an HRS Nimbus plate. Of all the footers I tried -- including HRS Nimbus couplers, Magico Qpods, Symposium Rollerblocks, Polycrystal cones, and Stillpoints Ultra SS and 6's -- the Sort Kone TC's were clearly the best (which is strange, because I didn't like them under number of other components, and only tried them under the 218 for kicks).

The 218, like the DSP8000's, will also benefit from good AC conditioning, but that's a whole other can of worms...

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#275048 - 2018-04-11 17:30 Re: DSP8000s Comparison of 218 vs. Sonos sources [Re: Cleop]
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In the interests of fairness / balance, with something that's clearly off-topic, I've found that the 218 is completely insensitive to vibration & power supply.

No difference in sound through my system whether the 218 is exposed to vibration or alternative power sources.

Again, this is off-topic, so with respect to the OP, can we please get back to the (very interesting) original discussion...


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#275050 - 2018-04-11 18:44 Re: DSP8000s Comparison of 218 vs. Sonos sources [Re: Rolski]
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Originally Posted By Rolski
Again, this is off-topic, so with respect to the OP, can we please get back to the (very interesting) original discussion...
Off-topic discussion now split out to this new topic.

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#275054 - 2018-04-11 19:56 Re: DSP8000s Comparison of 218 vs. Sonos sources [Re: Rolski]
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Rolski, did you try a linear supply on the 218?


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#275056 - 2018-04-12 02:05 Re: DSP8000s Comparison of 218 vs. Sonos sources [Re: Rick415]
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How?


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#275058 - 2018-04-12 03:51 Re: DSP8000s Comparison of 218 vs. Sonos sources [Re: Albert]
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There would be a little surgery involved. It would be very simple unless the existing supply shares a board with other stuff but that doesn’t sound like a smart design from a noise perspective...


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#275068 - 2018-04-12 10:49 Re: DSP8000s Comparison of 218 vs. Sonos sources [Re: Rick415]
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You must try this, and let us know how is the result.


HT: Audiocom Oppo203 signature with Vanity HD/HD621 861v8, DSP6Ks(LCR), DSP5200.1
Revel b112 b110 AntimodeX4 JVCx790
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#275092 - 2018-04-12 13:41 Re: DSP8000s Comparison of 218 vs. Sonos sources [Re: Albert]
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Has anyone tried an iFi power supply with the 218?


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