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#274750 - 2018-04-03 21:11 Re: OPPO cease product development and production [Re: Hector]
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It really tells us that the age of silver discs is nearly over.


Rgds,
Nick

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#274751 - 2018-04-03 21:31 Re: OPPO cease product development and production [Re: ncpl]
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+1
I can’t recall the the last time I purchased one.


861v6+ID40, HD621, 8000.2, 7200HC, 7200, SKYQ Silver, PS3, PDP-LX6090, QNAP TS870-Pro (8*6TB), Roon, iPadAir2.
[In Reserve] C15, MD600 (2*3TB), TwinStore RM (2*2TB)
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#274752 - 2018-04-03 21:57 Re: OPPO cease product development and production [Re: Carl]
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Bought a few recently, all SACDs which is a dead format.


Sooloos, Roon, G series (with LPS upgrade), 800 series (with LPS upgrade), HD621, AC200, Prime and PS, DSPs old and new.

Purdeys, Moke, Leica, 'Blad. Only the best.
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#274756 - 2018-04-04 04:38 Re: OPPO cease product development and production [Re: dpstjp]
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Roon lifetime is about as cheap as a 203 I think. Tidal is the cost of a CD and a half a month if you can find it in a store.


James
NC1: 861v4+ID40, 218, MS200 (to outdoors), DSP8000SE (upgraded). 5500VC, 5500s, Hsu Research ULS15x2, DirecTV, Oppo BD103, QNAP251, Roon
NC2-see FL 2 with Triad Silver Speakers

FL1: G61R, 218, DSP8000SEs, 5500HC, DSP6000s, MS600, DirecTv, Oppo BD103, QNAP469, Roon
FL2: Marantz 7005, M60s, M60C, M33s, Oppo BDP-93, MS200, Roon
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#274760 - 2018-04-04 06:49 Re: OPPO cease product development and production [Re: Mtns]
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I think a lot of people use their Oppos for video replay. Sadly, the SQ of most streamed movie soundtracks is poor compared to the DTS-HD\Atmos available on Blu-ray discs.


Main system - Sources (Kodi-HTPC, Vero 4k, FireTV, Sat) into Trinnov Altitude 32 (8-16) (+Roon), Trinnov Amplitude 8 amp & Vivid Audio (Giya G3, V1.5) and REL Stentor III speakers. Others: F80 + Raspberry Pi and other Pi systems.
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#274762 - 2018-04-04 07:57 Re: OPPO cease product development and production [Re: Cliff.]
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I'm still a hunter-gatherer ;O) I prefer to own and then stream/rip and enjoy on my own terms .Its funny to me that we would spend 100 Roon lifetimes on a pair of loudspeakers and then pause for thought at the price of a CD . Kodi and Plex are fine too for what they are as is Tidal for dipping a toe in some new waters . Best Buy in the U.S. will cease CD sales altogether in July 2018 . I think the push towards Streaming only , unfortunately , is mostly governed by greed as companies seek to increase profits by decreasing production costs . I still buy the superdeluxeedition of my favourite albums , eg. Pineapple Thief's live tour-de-force 'Where We Stood' and Steven Wilson's footstomping ode to Pop culture of his youth ' To The Bone ' .

At least if my health or wealth fail me , in my house , the music will never stop :O)

Each to their own , Enjoy the Music !

~M~


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Edited by Meridialien; 2018-04-04 07:58.
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#274767 - 2018-04-04 11:09 Re: OPPO cease product development and production [Re: Meridialien]
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+1. I still like to go to a shop and search for treasure. It part of the fun of vinyl shopping as you never know what you might find.


861v8, 808v6, DSP5200SE, DSP7200.2HC, M6, QNAP TS451, 218 various other bits.
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#274909 - 2018-04-07 23:57 Re: OPPO cease product development and production [Re: dpstjp]
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Everyone thinks that the silver disc is dead, however in 2017, silver disc sales exceeded sales of digital downloads and are orders of magnitude greater than vinyl. It looks like digital downloads may be in bigger trouble - too much of a pain in the a$$ unless, 1) you are computer-literate and patient as Job, 2) you have great IP service with bandwidth.

ALL brick and mortar sales of most anything are down due to one organization - Amazon. On Amazon is is possible to purchase nearly every CD, SACD, DVD-V, DVD-A, Blu-Ray disc and 4K Blu-Ray disc EVER MADE for a substantial discount. Indeed EMI, Decca, DG and many other classical labels have been making 50+ count box sets available on Amazon for less than $0.50 PER DISC. It is an even bigger bargain than used vinyl sales, since Amazon offers new or used silver discs, and used CD's, for the most part, are indistinguishable from new, while a LOT of used vinyl I have purchased sounds like my cat had her way with it first. I think the death of the silver disc is as much as a myth as the death of vinyl.

In addition, Sony and Samsung are still making pretty good universal players. Not Oppo quality, but pretty good. I also think one of the high end brands will re-enter this market space with Oppo out of the competition.

I do think streaming will indeed take over and likely become the new FM. With no competition from other media, even with a subscription, it will become increasing expensive and littered with commercials. Need an analogy ? DirecTV and Sky Net. You pay for access AND have to put up with commercials. Believe me its coming for audio streaming as well. Don't give up your physical media without a fight.


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#2 AC200, M6, Sonos
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#274942 - 2018-04-08 21:28 Re: OPPO cease product development and production [Re: Gianni]
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The most obvious candidate to pick up where Oppo leaves off is Cambridge Audio. I believe they share the same architecture, chassis and production facilities.


William
808.6, HD621, Oppo 103EU, DSP5200SEs; 2xM3s, Oppo 105D Panasonic PVR, Panasonic plasma; F80
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#274949 - 2018-04-09 06:59 Re: OPPO cease product development and production [Re: WilliamS]
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Given the size of Oppo vs Cambridge Audio, how, would it be more viable for the latter ?


Rgds,
Nick

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#274955 - 2018-04-09 08:12 Re: OPPO cease product development and production [Re: ncpl]
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The longer I think of it the more cowardly Oppo's decision seems. A likely product of the 'anything-can-go except executive pay' management style. Most companies would kill for Oppo's players' reputation but instead of perhaps a minor price increase to keep going or a newer, lower price-point model , somehow, chucking in the towel seems an overreaction.

Don't be surprised if Panasonic make up some of the ground too. They always were more expensive than Oppo and their newer ModelEB-820 plays everything except DVD-A.

Cambridge Audio simply sourced similar parts to Oppo, that doesn't mean that the player will be as good (though I have no personal experience of it either way).

~M~


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#274957 - 2018-04-09 09:12 Re: OPPO cease product development and production [Re: Meridialien]
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I can’t help thinking that development costs to get the 203 firmware working 'correctly' for combinations of TV/Projector/SDR/HDR etc. have been a whole lot worse than previous generations of machine. Just have a look at the firmware history on the first page of the avforums owners thread.

4K has been challenging to get right and Im not sure its actually 100% there even now. Not helped by the evolving technology of SDR, HDR and then Dolby DV, oh and broadcast HDR (can't remember what that’s called). I would say money grab but lets be kind.

The machine was released way too early but to their credit, they stuck with it.

I could live without the universal playback, if that helped. But I will stick with disc because it’s the best way to hear a film. I just dont want to go back to compressed soundtracks. I had the 93, skipped the 103 and now have the 203.

Players I’ve owned seem to last around 5 years so hopefully someone else will step up to the plate when my 203 stops working. Hey Ho.

But I’m not looking forward to 8K when they start pushing that to consumers!

Cheers
Greg


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