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#274199 - 2018-03-14 10:17 UHD722 setup issues
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Timmy Offline
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Hi all,

I received my UHD722 yesterday as a replacement for my HD621. On setting it up 2 of my 4 sources now cause noise to be heard when using Dolby Digital, PCM is fine. I wondered if anyone else has similar experiences or has found a solution?

Setup: [Oppo 203, PS4, Sky TV, Amazon Fire TV] -> 722 MMHR -> G65 -> DSPs

Oppo 203 and PS4 can output PCM, DD Bitstream or DTS bitstream and the G65 locks on appropriately
Amazon Fire TV, Sky TV can output 2 channel PCM ok and the G65 shows MHR Movie 2 and normal sound is heard, however when the source is changed to DD bitstream the G65 still shows MHR Movie 2 and I assume plays the bitstream as though it were PCM, hence the noise

All the sources worked fine with the HD621. I have changed all cables to and from the 722 with the same result, have also tried using smartlink rather than MMHR but no difference.

It also seems to take an age to handshake compared to the HD621.

I assume someone else out there is using a Sky box or Fire TV successfully with the 722?

The picture however is fantastic!

Thanks everyone,
Tim


Tim
DSP8000SE (upgraded), DSP7200SE (upgraded), DSP7200HCSE, G65, UHD722, 281, Oppo UDP203, Optoma UHD60
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#274231 - 2018-03-15 10:32 Re: UHD722 setup issues [Re: Timmy]
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Interesting about the handshaking times vs HD621. Would it not be faster with the *much* newer UHD722?

Has Meridian talked/mentioned this? Could it be fixable via updated firmware?


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DSP8000SE, DSP7200SEHC, DSP5200SE sides, DSP7200SE rears, 861v8/ID41, MC200, Sim2 HT380 T2 1080P, Stewart Cinecurve 2.35:1, XEIT CM-5E Anamorphic lens, Apple-TV 4K with nFuse 5, HDI Dune BD Prime 3.0 with Wireworld Platinum HDMI -> UHD722 -> Audioquest Diamond RJ45. Shunyata Sigma Digital@861v8.
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#274234 - 2018-03-15 11:05 Re: UHD722 setup issues [Re: Timmy]
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Are you using HDR capable HDMI cables.

When the Oppo 203 came out, a number of people were using it with their existing cabling which caused a lot of handshaking problems.

I keep a spare to swap in and out, as a sanity check if anything looks even the slightest bit weird.

Cheers
Greg


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#274236 - 2018-03-15 12:02 Re: UHD722 setup issues [Re: Greg Wright]
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Thanks for the suggestion. I think the cabling is fine and I've swapped around the cables among what I have but I agree it doesn't hurt to try another set. Perhaps the handshaking delay is something cable related. The main issue though is the G65 not locking onto Dolby Digital anymore for just 2 of the 4 sources. 4k video is fine, it's the relatively low bandwidth audio that is the problem and I can't see how that is cable related, especially as the Fire TV doesn't have a cable, just a dongle.

Ironically given your post - the Oppo 203 is the bit that works the best!


Tim
DSP8000SE (upgraded), DSP7200SE (upgraded), DSP7200HCSE, G65, UHD722, 281, Oppo UDP203, Optoma UHD60
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#275763 - 2018-05-05 16:13 Re: UHD722 setup issues
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Latest update on my issues with Dolby Digital through the UHD722 being heard as noise from some sources...

Sky HD+ successfully replaced with Sky Q. DD works just fine now, as does UHD and handshaking.
Amazon Fire TV replaced by Apple 4k. Again no DD issues, 4k works just fine and ATV supports Amazon Prime Video plus Netflix.

So in short - the UHD722 will fail to recognise Dolby Digital from some sources and will transmit noise. That is a problem that Meridian need to fix. However, choose the sources wisely and you might just get it working well. I am happy with how things are working now, although it is disconcerting that any future source will be a gamble as to whether it works or not.


Tim
DSP8000SE (upgraded), DSP7200SE (upgraded), DSP7200HCSE, G65, UHD722, 281, Oppo UDP203, Optoma UHD60
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#276471 - 2018-05-30 18:59 Re: UHD722 setup issues [Re: Timmy]
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Just as an update to this. I've just plumbed in my new UHD722 today and am having no joy with DD on Amazon Fire TV, just noise. I'm using the standard 1080p Fire TV.


Neill
G61, UHD722, DSP5200s (L,C&R), DSP5k (Rears), M1500, F80, i80, Explorer
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#276473 - 2018-05-30 21:19 Re: UHD722 setup issues [Re: Neill]
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Hi Neill,

This is a well know problem from several of us. There appears to be a problem with the UHD722 negotiating with the Amazon Fire TV to software decode DD+ (EAC-3) to PCM. This was not a problem on the HD621.

You can work around this problem by disabling Dolby Digital Plus in the audio setup menu on the Fire TV. When you disable DD+ you will only get Dolby Digital 2.0 on all sources.

Please report this issue to your dealer so we can get Meridian to correct this problem soon.

Thanks,
Jim

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#276507 - 2018-05-31 15:17 Re: UHD722 setup issues [Re: Timmy]
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There is new firmware available for the UHD722. Below are the release notes fixes:

- No Audio from Standard Def Sky Q Content

- Roku Ultra and Cable Box Audio Flutter

- UHD722 Sky Q No SD Audio

- UHD722 Dolby Digital Issue

- UHD722 Oppo Issue

- Humax iHDR-5200c 5.1 Audio Issue

- EDID Speaker Allocation Data Block

- EDID was always identifying eight speakers.

- EDID now advertises its channel assignments based on number of channels assigned via MConfig.

- Xbox One X HDR conflict on Input 6 “Game”


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#276510 - 2018-05-31 17:00 Re: UHD722 setup issues [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Neill Offline
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Registered: 2007-12-13
Posts: 160
Loc: North Herts/South Cambs, UK
Just updated the firmware and Dolby Digital now works fine from Amazon Fire TV. laugh


Neill
G61, UHD722, DSP5200s (L,C&R), DSP5k (Rears), M1500, F80, i80, Explorer
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#276511 - 2018-05-31 17:02 Re: UHD722 setup issues [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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It's good to see that Meridian has released a firmware update but you'd have hoped the UHD722 would have hit the ground running, not stumbling...


Audio: MC200, G61R SL, HD621, DSP5500, 5500HC, DSP3100. Subs: 2 x REL Gibraltar 2.
Video: JVC X70, Black Diamond Zero Edge screen 129"(2.35).

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#276515 - 2018-05-31 17:48 Re: UHD722 setup issues [Re: Not'arf]
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CMB Integrations - Bruce Online content
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As the board in the UHD722 is shared by a number of manufacturers, I am sure it was not just a Meridian problem. Keeping up with every 99 dollar HDMI widget is probably a lot of work.


www.cmbintegrations.com

Personal System #1 Trinnov Altitude 32-8-16, 818v3, DSP8000.2SE, DSP7200SEHC, Revel F228be, Revel B112, Monitor Audio Silver 10, ATI 200WX5 Amp, JVC RS15, Shunyata Denali 6000S, Alpha power cables, Black Diamond Zero Edge screen. QNAP TS-251 3TB
Mark Levinson No515 Turntable

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#276519 - 2018-05-31 19:03 Re: UHD722 setup issues [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Well, maybe, but it seems to have had more than its fair share of issues.

Let's hope M can keep it performing for their early purchasers.


Audio: MC200, G61R SL, HD621, DSP5500, 5500HC, DSP3100. Subs: 2 x REL Gibraltar 2.
Video: JVC X70, Black Diamond Zero Edge screen 129"(2.35).

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