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#273987 - 2018-03-06 00:13 General Connection and Setup Questions
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Hello, I’ve been lurking in the forum for a while and considered a few amps and used it mainly as a classifieds rather than anything else. I accidentally just bought some new gear and was hoping to get some advice.

My current setup includes a Meridian G55 connected to an Oppo 105D as a pre amp and then Focal 826VW’s, 807 VW’s, CC800VW and a Rel T9 sub. I’m sure it’s not at its optimum set up but one of the very annoying things was the volume control with the Oppo as it didn’t seem linear. Volume 50 would be great for watching TV but Volume 1 for listening to background music was always too loud.

We also have a Xbox 360, Xbox One, Apple TV & Mac Mini and Wii connected which is a pain as I can only connect one device to the Oppo and a few to the TV so I’ve considered a HD621 on & off for a while. I also have another set of Focal SR800VW surround speakers which are still boxed & never been touched.

Yesterday I found a complete set of Meridian gear for sale & won it. So now I have another G55, G57, G68 and HD621 winging its way over. So figuring with this, I can now connect everything to the HD621, connect the G68 so the sound will be easier to control and hopefully sound better? If I can get away with it, from the wife, the surround speakers can also go up and then have another amp powering them.

From what I can see, the auction was in the US, the HD621 and G68 will work fine here in Hong Kong as the voltage seems to be sorted straight away. The two amps will need a 110v input (I have an external transformer) and in time can always get the internal transformers changed. Is this correct?

How would you go about connecting the stuff and setting it up so it sounds great? Sorry if that sounds like a very newbie question but whilst I’ve had my gear for a while I’m sure it could be tuned to sound much better.

Thanks, Nick


G55, G68XXV, HD621, Oppo 105D, MacBook running Roon
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#274001 - 2018-03-06 12:42 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Laserblues2]
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Nick,

Welcome to the forum. Which version of the G68 did you buy?

You can see the different sorts here.

It looks like you're thinking of moving from a 5.1 set up to a 7.1 setup? The G68 will only mix the sides and rears, unlike the 861v6 (or v8) which can use true 7.1 material. I don't think this should really be an issue though.

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#274002 - 2018-03-06 12:57 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Laserblues2]
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#274013 - 2018-03-06 22:42 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: dpstjp]
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Hey Dominic,

I think for now we’ll probably stick with 5.1 (I’d love to get the sides up but think the wife won’t be happy but its definitrly the long term plan. Presumably the G68 will be good for 5.1 - i’d love to get a 861 at some point & that was what I was looking for ... this came up and seemed silly to ignore!

It seems to be the G68XXV ... is it easy to refurbish the top of an amp? I’ll try to drop in some pictures.

Is it easy to set up? Would it be worth getting someone round to do it professionally?

Is the HD621 good? Reading all sorts about the UHD722 but we don’t have a 4K TV or many 4K inputs yet.

Thanks,
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#274014 - 2018-03-06 23:03 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Laserblues2]
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Don’t bother with the top of the amp. You won’t see it in a dark room with the TV on.

XXV is good. You’ll want 5 balanced cables to go between the XXV and the G55.

The HD621 is good. You’re right, you don’t need the UHD722.

You’ll need 3x digital SPDIF cables to go from the HD621 and the G68, and you’ll want a Comms cable to go between the two as well. BNC is great for this.

To set up the two units you’ll need to run the config programme. For this you will want a null modem cable to whatever your PC can deliver (RS232 or USB). What connectors does your PC have? I presume you can run Windows?

I would sell the other kit you are getting, but YMMV.

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#274017 - 2018-03-07 00:14 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: dpstjp]
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Thanks, that’s what I was figuring but I also figured I could maybe spray it myself?!

Ok, I’ll get 5 balanced cables - just using phone cables at the moment. Does it make a big difference?

A comms cable is included. I only have a MacBook & iMac so not sure how I’m going to configure it? Is there any option to do it with a Mac?

I was considering keeping it for another room or maybe sticking it up for sale & seeing what happened. Some of the prices here in Hong Kong are crazy!! We’ll see

Thanks,

Nick


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#274018 - 2018-03-07 00:17 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Laserblues2]
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So a SPDIF is just an optical cable right? If so, I have a few! Also need to get some BNC cables

Any recommendations? I was thinking maybe Mark Grant cables?


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#274019 - 2018-03-07 00:35 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Laserblues2]
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Also, the G55 & G57 won’t work with a step down transformer or the transformers changed.... what about the HD621 or G68 presumably they’ll just work? Do I need to make any changes or swap fuses or anything?

Thanks,

Nick


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#274020 - 2018-03-07 07:34 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Laserblues2]
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Pretty sure you have 240v in HK. The kit will state on the back what power supply is required. Coming from the States it will most likely be 110v. You need the right voltage going into the various kit or it will blow up.
Have a look at VMware fusion or parallel. These programs will allow you to run Windows on your Mac kit for using the config program.


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#274021 - 2018-03-07 07:39 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Struttmaster]
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If you just need windows temporarily then I use boot camp, just download Windows from Microsoft and install it will work fine without the licence key.


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#274022 - 2018-03-07 07:51 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Laserblues2]
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Definitely worth having a look at Duncan’s Meridian info at the top of the page. Instruction manuals for all of you kit will be there to familiarise yourself with it before it arrives.


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#274023 - 2018-03-07 07:53 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Laserblues2]
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Originally Posted By Laserblues2
So a SPDIF is just an optical cable right? If so, I have a few! Also need to get some BNC cables

Any recommendations? I was thinking maybe Mark Grant cables?


Sorry, I didn’t make it clear. Three digital coax cables (electrical not optical) will connect the HD621 to the G68.

You need a single BNC cable for comms between the HD621 and the G68. Don’t spend any more than you have to on this, it just needs to conduct. Since you say it’s coming with a comms cable there’s no need for an extra one.

The HD621 and G68 have universal power supplies according the Duncs’ site.


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#274024 - 2018-03-07 09:12 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: dpstjp]
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Thanks for the replies - i’d Read and looked on the back of lots of the images and it said 100-240v but then read somewhere about changing the fuse. I’d never heard of that before so figured it was nonsense.

I guess I should wait & see what cables arrive & then order some. What XLR / balanced cables are recommended? The Mark Grant stuff looks reasonable & apparently is very good.

I can try to borrow a Windows computer, or have a go with boot camp - never messed about with it before. Is it vital for the setting up? From what I’ve read it is, but was wondering whether it could be manually input on the G68?

Thank you for all the advice, really appreciated!

Nick


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#274025 - 2018-03-07 09:42 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Laserblues2]
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Easier to configure from the ‘Windows only’ mad config program, boot camp is pretty easy to do and you can delete it afterwards and go back to how it was.


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#274042 - 2018-03-07 22:38 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Ratbert]
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Cool, will give it a go and see.

How would I connect a Rel T9 sub to the G55 / G68?


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#274045 - 2018-03-08 06:08 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Laserblues2]
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If you have a stereo amp, REL recommend to tie the high level input, (Came with the SW), into the amp for overall bass. G68 has a subwoofer out. Connect that to the SW LFE connection for movies. (You'll set this up when using the config program). If you have mono amps, grab another T9 and tie one onto each amp.


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#274076 - 2018-03-08 22:49 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Struttmaster]
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Where’s the SW LFE output? I can see a balanced output for the sub but not sure how I’d connect that? I can do the speaker connection way but again as it’s balanced outputs how do you do that? Sorry....


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#274079 - 2018-03-09 03:59 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Laserblues2]
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REL T series SW's have a low level (RCA connection) and high level (REL proprietary connection) inputs.

The G68 has an RCA (Analogue) SW output that will go to the low level input on the REL.

If you have an analogue stereo power amp, connect the amps outputs to your speaker cable and the high level input on the REL as per below REL Series Ti Manual.


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#274080 - 2018-03-09 04:36 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Struttmaster]
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Ah ha, I've just realised I was being silly as the sub is already connected through the speaker cables to the sub so that's fine. I just can't see the RCA sub output on the G68 XXV. I think I must have missed it though or it's named something different to my expectations. I guess I should just wait for the things to arrive lol..... just too excited!!


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#274081 - 2018-03-09 07:41 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Laserblues2]
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XXV only has balanced XLR outputs, so no RCA analogue outputs.

If your sub only has RCA for low level inputs, you will either need a cable made up or use a transformer converter (Rane or Neutrik are ones that come to mind).

All the best,

Steve


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#274083 - 2018-03-09 11:17 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Syles]
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Thanks Steve, presumably it’s possible to run the sub with no RCA connection & it’ll still be fine?


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#274084 - 2018-03-09 11:58 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Laserblues2]
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It will be fine. You should have a lead that connects to the L/R outputs of your G55 to the sub high level input?


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#274086 - 2018-03-09 14:08 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: dpstjp]
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Yes, that’s already connected, does the RCA not need to be plugged in? Will it make any difference if it isn’t?


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#274087 - 2018-03-09 14:35 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Laserblues2]
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You only need one input; either line level from the G68, or high level from the 'speaker(s).

I actually prefer taking it from the main channels and running them as large; I use split XLRs to feed active main 'speakers and a DSP crossover from the same output.

I tried using the separate Subwoofer XLRs with the main 'speakers set to small, it wasn't as good.

All the best,

Steve.


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#274201 - 2018-03-14 12:04 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Syles]
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Thanks for that - i’ll Just leave it with the existing one off the speakers.

All the gear arrived today, very exciting!! I was going to take a photo & upload it but struggling so given up with that idea lol.

I have a cable for the Meridian comms port but the one on the right (like a Din plug) - do I need both or will it just work with one connection? I haven’t managed my Mac sorted to set it up but was reading its possible to do it on the unit?

Is it worth having Meridian out to set it up properly? I’m tempted but not sure how much benefit there will be - it takes them a day though?


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#274202 - 2018-03-14 12:05 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Laserblues2]
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I thought I deleted my signature but somehow it’s back & it has the new equipment too


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#274203 - 2018-03-14 12:20 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Laserblues2]
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I presume that the sound comes out of the HD621 from the smart link rca outputs and goes into the G68 somewhere?


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#274204 - 2018-03-14 13:10 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Laserblues2]
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Middle of the XXV you’ll see two rows of three RCAs labelled Multi Digital In.

You need to hook up the HD621 RCA outs to the relevant RCA in in one of the two rows (MD1 or MD2).


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#274206 - 2018-03-14 14:35 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: dpstjp]
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Figured it might be something like that. The HD621 says 1/2, 3/4, 5/6 & 7/8 but the G68 says multi digital in with some in the rca inputs saying DVD Md1, md2 l/r, c/lfe etc

Will read the G68 manual again!


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#274208 - 2018-03-14 14:36 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Laserblues2]
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Is the Meridian comms ok with just the Din connection?


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#274209 - 2018-03-14 14:37 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Laserblues2]
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Will be perfect with the Din connection.


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#274210 - 2018-03-14 14:43 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: dpstjp]
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Great, phew!! This also might sound silly, do you connect the din comms lead to the G55 or the HD621? Just reading up & it’s not clear. Presuming HD621 comms to g68?! Thank you for the advice!!


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#274212 - 2018-03-14 14:59 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: Laserblues2]
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There is no comms link on the G55. There is a standard trigger input on the power amp that power triggers on and off (I've never reliably got mine to work from my 861v4 to my G55).

You need to hook this up with the right trigger lead to the G68 and G55 and set up the G68 to trigger via the Meridian config programme.


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#274219 - 2018-03-14 21:46 Re: General Connection and Setup Questions [Re: dpstjp]
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Ah ok, that’s cool about the G55. Figured it was HD621 to G68 anyway.

I’ve currently got a trigger from the Oppo to the G55 working from a USB port which has been excellent

Can I setup the G68 through the amp rather than using a computer - looks like it’s feasible but maybe not as in depth?


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