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#273053 - 2018-02-12 17:32 Re: 218 options with Non-SL processors [Re: Bayreuth]
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Just to say thanks for so many interesting replies to this post from all of you. Struttmaster is already successfully doing specifically what I wasn’t previously sure would actually work in practice, but there are lots of other comments that are also extremely helpful.

If/when I eventually get round to demoing and subsequently decide to purchase a 218, I will share my own experiences.

Paul


priorities: stereo music (primarily 'classical' / choral / opera)
boxes: various 500-series, DACs, G91 (+ non-M e.g. ELS-63)
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#274699 - 2018-04-01 20:40 Re: 218 options with Non-SL processors [Re: OldDogCan]
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ODC,

Could you feed the Allo coax output directly to the SE’s and get full MQA?

I’m about to blow my budget on some 5200SE’s and now figuring out the cheapest way to get full MQA...

Thanks,

Rick


G68ADV, DSP5200, Rythmik F12 sub, RPi2 with Sbooster power supply, Allo SPDIF output board and Roon
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#274703 - 2018-04-01 21:33 Re: 218 options with Non-SL processors [Re: Rick415]
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Get a 218, hook it up to your LAN and subscribe to Tidal and get set up with Roon (if you haven't already). The 218 will decode MQA from Tidal and function as a Roon endpoint. Your DSP SEs will do the final MQA rendering and you are about as good as it gets.

Ken


Main: G68J, 5K2s, 5Ks, HSU subs, Pio 151FD, Dish VP722, Roku, Wadia I70, Anti Mode Dual Core, Oppo 103D Vanity Lite
Office: SBT, Berkeley Alpha DAC 2/MQA, Focal Diablo, Hegel, JL e112, Dual Core, Roon.
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#274709 - 2018-04-02 03:03 Re: 218 options with Non-SL processors [Re: Kswanson]
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+1 Ken.


James
NC1: 861v4+ID40, 218, MS200 (to outdoors), DSP8000SE (upgraded). 5500VC, 5500s, Hsu Research ULS15x2, DirecTV, Oppo BD103, QNAP251, Roon
NC2-see FL 2 with Triad Silver Speakers

FL1: G61R, 218, DSP8000SEs, 5500HC, DSP6000s, MS600, DirecTv, Oppo BD103, QNAP469, Roon
FL2: Marantz 7005, M60s, M60C, M33s, Oppo BDP-93, MS200, Roon
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#274710 - 2018-04-02 03:57 Re: 218 options with Non-SL processors [Re: Rick415]
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You have a PM.


Main: G68J, 5K2s, 5Ks, HSU subs, Pio 151FD, Dish VP722, Roku, Wadia I70, Anti Mode Dual Core, Oppo 103D Vanity Lite
Office: SBT, Berkeley Alpha DAC 2/MQA, Focal Diablo, Hegel, JL e112, Dual Core, Roon.
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#274721 - 2018-04-03 01:34 Re: 218 options with Non-SL processors [Re: Kswanson]
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Kind of a bummer that I have to spend $1000 on a 218 when I don’t need it’s DAC or streaming functions - just the MQA unfolding.

It really seems like this should be built into the SE’s...


G68ADV, DSP5200, Rythmik F12 sub, RPi2 with Sbooster power supply, Allo SPDIF output board and Roon
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#274734 - 2018-04-03 11:27 Re: 218 options with Non-SL processors [Re: Rick415]
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It just the price of admission. We have all had to pay it if we wanted MQA. Kind of like a 4k tv without a 4k source.


861v8, 808v6, DSP5200SE, DSP7200.2HC, M6, QNAP TS451, 218 various other bits.
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#274905 - 2018-04-07 21:19 Re: 218 options with Non-SL processors [Re: OldDogCan]
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ODC,

Have you tried a linear supply on the 218? Perhaps that would help it out.

I’m thinking about a 218 for MQA (see my post today) but not sure how to connect it to the G68, which I currently use for bass management of an analog sub (eventually the plan is to use it for room correction and Trifield)

Cheers,

Rick


G68ADV, DSP5200, Rythmik F12 sub, RPi2 with Sbooster power supply, Allo SPDIF output board and Roon
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#274907 - 2018-04-07 22:37 Re: 218 options with Non-SL processors [Re: Rick415]
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Surely the 218 already has a good linear power supply.


Roon (ROCK NUC with internal SSD storage)
Meridian 218, DSP3200.
Lindemann Musicbook 20DSD and 55, PMC Wafer 1 (shared with Marantz SR7011 7.1 system).

Explorer 2.
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#274928 - 2018-04-08 15:02 Re: 218 options with Non-SL processors [Re: Rick415]
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Originally Posted By Rick415
Kind of a bummer that I have to spend $1000 on a 218 when I don’t need it’s DAC or streaming functions - just the MQA unfolding.

It really seems like this should be built into the SE’s...
There’s always a Bluesound Node 2 for $500. Does MQA, Roon endpoint as well. Looks nice too. SPDIF coax out and no Meridian integration, of course.

But you’re still paying for a nice DAC in there you won’t use. wink


DSP5000/18, 500.2, Bluesound Node 2 (MQA)
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#274932 - 2018-04-08 16:59 Re: 218 options with Non-SL processors [Re: JobSeeker]
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The 218 power supply is listed as linear.

John


My system: Apple TV, HD621, G68D, AC11, 218, DSP7200SE (L+R), DSP3200 (L+R Rear) [Zone 2 - M3100 L+R]
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#274940 - 2018-04-08 21:01 Re: 218 options with Non-SL processors [Re: JohnMcElfresh]
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Hi John,I've checked the manual and datasheet, and don't see that. Where did you find it?

Given the small size, I'm surprised there's room for a linear supply...

Cheers,

Rick


G68ADV, DSP5200, Rythmik F12 sub, RPi2 with Sbooster power supply, Allo SPDIF output board and Roon
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