Google Search  |  Meridian Systems  |  Meridian Streaming  |  Restaurant  |  WiKi  |  Duncan's Meridian Info  |  Board Rules  |  Restaurant Rules
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#271093 - 2017-12-25 17:48 Sooloos (and Roon) questions
Registered: 2017-12-23
Posts: 26
HalJayGreene Offline
Harmless
HalJayGreene Offline
Harmless

Registered: 2017-12-23
Posts: 26
Loc: Denver, CO, USA
Hi Guys (and Gals),

Okay, ages ago, I bought my original Sooloos systems directly from Rob Darling himself and carted all my CD's by hand down to his shop on Greene street to have him rip my 8k+ discs to 4-server setup (two 2-TB mains and two 2-TB secondaries) running off a Control:10. So I've been in this from the very beginning (I actually still have all my original equipment, in case anyone is interested, btw.)

Point is, I've been upgrading continuously through my local Meridian dealer (I am in Denver) and I now have all my albums stored on a QNAP RAID Level 5 server connected to a 218 DAC using the iPad app, and rip with Control:Mac.

Despite my long, convoluted history with Meridian/Sooloos (all my classical metadata is still a mess from the original import) I only JUST DISCOVERED THIS NEWSGROUP!

I came here because I was searching for the answer to the following question: Prior to this setup, using my Control:15, I could export specific playlists. I have a LOT of playlists. Using my new setup, I can't for the life of me figure out how to do this. Did Meridian nerf this function? With over 100k+ tracks I do NOT want to export my entire library! Or am I missing something obvious?

But beyond the above goofy question, after reading through some of the threads, it appears I know NOTHING about the state-of-the-art setup for maximizing my system. For example, it appears that ripping CD's with Control:Mac is for the birds. People use something called dBpoweramp much more effectively?

And wither Roon? Is that like the Meridian/Sooloos app on steroids? Will it "repair" a lot of my messed up metadata? I saw a thread that suggested that, for safety reasons, it was wiser to export the entire library to another server and let Roon fix that rather than let it fix the existing Sooloos DB. If so, then what is the benefit of using my 218 as a DAC? Does a Roon/new DB setup REPLACE my existing Sooloos system?

I'm looking for someone to give me a high-level overview or point me to some relevant FAQs so I can digest all this new info.

Thanks!
Hal


Top
#271184 - 2017-12-29 14:14 Re: Sooloos (and Roon) questions [Re: HalJayGreene]
Registered: 2007-05-19
Posts: 987
JobSeeker Offline
Pan-dimensional being
JobSeeker Offline
Pan-dimensional being

Registered: 2007-05-19
Posts: 987
Loc: West Yorkshire, England
Roon will no longer directly change your metadata. It used to have that option. It reads your files then builds its own database using its own metadata. So it plays from your files but displays the metadata from its own database.


Roon (ROCK NUC with internal SSD storage)
Meridian 218, DSP3200.
Lindemann Musicbook / Lyngdorf SDA-2400, PMC Wafer 1 (shared with Marantz SR7011 7.1 system).
Testing Bluesound Node 2 and Auralic Aries Mini with above.
Explorer 2.
Top
#271187 - 2017-12-29 17:06 Re: Sooloos (and Roon) questions [Re: HalJayGreene]
Registered: 2012-09-28
Posts: 145
Arlen Offline
Hitchhiker
Arlen Offline
Hitchhiker

Registered: 2012-09-28
Posts: 145
Loc: The Netherlands
Originally Posted By HalJayGreene
I came here because I was searching for the answer to the following question: Prior to this setup, using my Control:15, I could export specific playlists. I have a LOT of playlists. Using my new setup, I can't for the life of me figure out how to do this. Did Meridian nerf this function? With over 100k+ tracks I do NOT want to export my entire library! Or am I missing something obvious?

People use something called dBpoweramp much more effectively?
Welcome to the forum.

The only way to export playlists is with Control:PC/Mac. There is a seperate tab for that.

And about ripping: there is a sticky topic about it at the top of the Streaming page of this forum.


MD600, MS600
Top
#271203 - 2017-12-30 09:20 Re: Sooloos (and Roon) questions [Re: Arlen]
Registered: 2006-11-08
Posts: 4,000
dpstjp Offline
Vogon Civil Servant
dpstjp Offline
Vogon Civil Servant

Registered: 2006-11-08
Posts: 4,000
Loc: London, England
Hal,

Welcome to the forum. I’m sure our resident archivists would welcome any photos of your early Sooloos equipment.

As far as Roon is concerned, the key personnel from Sooloos were spun out of Meridian a couple of years ago. Roon is relatively agnostic about hardware (although any old Control units you have will only function as audio endpoints, and have no screen-based functionality).

If your classical collection is a mess I would try a Roon trial. You can point Roon at your Sooloos files for the trial, however Roon will identify more of your albums correctly if you point it at a fresh export where the music is grouped more logically.

I have kept my Sooloos database and music as a backup on one of my NAS in case of emergency. To date I have not used it.


Sooloos, Roon, G series (with LPS upgrade), 800 series (with LPS upgrade), HD621, AC200, Prime and PS, DSPs old and new.

Purdeys, Moke, Leica, 'Blad. Only the best.
Top
#271225 - 2017-12-30 15:53 Re: Sooloos (and Roon) questions [Re: Arlen]
Registered: 2017-12-23
Posts: 26
HalJayGreene Offline
Harmless
HalJayGreene Offline
Harmless

Registered: 2017-12-23
Posts: 26
Loc: Denver, CO, USA
Hi Arlen,

Could you painstakingly (as if you were talking to a child) point me to the "export playlist" tab?

I can't find it.

Thanks!

Hal

Top
#271227 - 2017-12-30 15:56 Re: Sooloos (and Roon) questions [Re: JobSeeker]
Registered: 2017-12-23
Posts: 26
HalJayGreene Offline
Harmless
HalJayGreene Offline
Harmless

Registered: 2017-12-23
Posts: 26
Loc: Denver, CO, USA
Hi Jobseeker,

So I'm guessing that Roon builds the metadata database on the local drive of whatever computer it's running on? Is there a way to centralize this DB and run Roon on multiple PC's? Doesn't Roon run on tablets? In that case, where is the DB?

Thanks,

Hal

Top
#271228 - 2017-12-30 16:00 Re: Sooloos (and Roon) questions [Re: dpstjp]
Registered: 2017-12-23
Posts: 26
HalJayGreene Offline
Harmless
HalJayGreene Offline
Harmless

Registered: 2017-12-23
Posts: 26
Loc: Denver, CO, USA
Hi,

So if I'm reading you right, you created a fresh export (in native format) of your entire collection to a new NAS and pointed Roon at it? Thus, you no longer access your music using any of the Sooloos/Meridian software or hardware? What kind of DAC does the Roon stream to/through? Or does it stream directly to your amp/preamp over the network?

Thanks,


Hal

Top
#271229 - 2017-12-30 16:05 Re: Sooloos (and Roon) questions [Re: HalJayGreene]
Registered: 2004-12-09
Posts: 6,259
ChrisLayerUK Offline
President of the Imperial Galactic Government
ChrisLayerUK Offline
President of the Imperial Galactic Government

Registered: 2004-12-09
Posts: 6,259
Loc: Colchester, Essex, UK
I think a good read here is required.

Roon Knowlege Base


No 18 in the Hall of fame smile I have simple tastes; I am content to settle for the best: GIK monster bass panels, rear wall.
MC200 500GB, QNAP TVS 471i3. Roon into 2 MS200's. Explorer 2. Bluesound Pulse 2 and Mini. 596 v1.89.2, 518, G61R, M60.2 Rosewood, M33C, M33 Rears, M1500 Sub, Foxsat HD, Sony Blu Ray, Pioneer 5090, 2 Chromecast's for LRB videos.
Top
#271231 - 2017-12-30 16:53 Re: Sooloos (and Roon) questions [Re: HalJayGreene]
Registered: 2006-11-08
Posts: 4,000
dpstjp Offline
Vogon Civil Servant
dpstjp Offline
Vogon Civil Servant

Registered: 2006-11-08
Posts: 4,000
Loc: London, England
Hal,

Roon plays to all M endpoints. For software Roon is free to download (you pay for the licence to run Roon Core).


Sooloos, Roon, G series (with LPS upgrade), 800 series (with LPS upgrade), HD621, AC200, Prime and PS, DSPs old and new.

Purdeys, Moke, Leica, 'Blad. Only the best.
Top
#271234 - 2017-12-30 18:07 Re: Sooloos (and Roon) questions [Re: HalJayGreene]
Registered: 2007-05-19
Posts: 987
JobSeeker Offline
Pan-dimensional being
JobSeeker Offline
Pan-dimensional being

Registered: 2007-05-19
Posts: 987
Loc: West Yorkshire, England
There is only one Roon Core per licence Hal. It runs and has its database on whatever machine you have it installed on at any one time. It will play to various endpoints, which can be other computers. Your music files can be on a remote NAS, though hard wiring between the two is advisable.


Roon (ROCK NUC with internal SSD storage)
Meridian 218, DSP3200.
Lindemann Musicbook / Lyngdorf SDA-2400, PMC Wafer 1 (shared with Marantz SR7011 7.1 system).
Testing Bluesound Node 2 and Auralic Aries Mini with above.
Explorer 2.
Top
#271249 - 2017-12-30 21:05 Re: Sooloos (and Roon) questions [Re: HalJayGreene]
Registered: 2012-09-28
Posts: 145
Arlen Offline
Hitchhiker
Arlen Offline
Hitchhiker

Registered: 2012-09-28
Posts: 145
Loc: The Netherlands
Originally Posted By HalJayGreene
Could you painstakingly (as if you were talking to a child) point me to the "export playlist" tab?
Hello Hal,

On your PC or Mac (not your tablet or phone): open Control:PC or Control:Mac.
If you don’t have this already installed, then point your browser to the IP address of your Sooloos core, something like this: 192.168.x.x
The x’s depend on your own network configuration.

If you have done this, Control:Web will open within your browser. There will be a message on there saying that additional features will be available within Control:PC. Click on that message, and Control:PC/Mac will install itself.

Once that is ready, open the installed program. This will open with the first tab active, which will show the current queue of songs playing. This is the tab called ‘play’. Next to it is ‘import’, and next to that is ‘export’.

Hope this helps, good luck!


MD600, MS600
Top
#271262 - 2017-12-31 00:02 Re: Sooloos (and Roon) questions [Re: Arlen]
Registered: 2017-12-23
Posts: 26
HalJayGreene Offline
Harmless
HalJayGreene Offline
Harmless

Registered: 2017-12-23
Posts: 26
Loc: Denver, CO, USA
Hi Arlen,

Thanks for this. We're getting closer! Now, after performing the steps you outlined, and choosing the "export" tab, and setting an export destination, how do I then navigate to any setting, control, radio button, drop down, or check box, in any program anywhere, that allows me to export the contents of a specific playlist, rather than my entire library?

In other words, where is the "start export" button?

And thanks again!


Hal

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

Moderator:  Carl, Duncs, ncpl 
Who's Online
2 registered (Carl, Marc Koval), 41 Guests and 4 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
GazB, TL101, ThoughtPolice, Sndpnr, PWN
4649 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Ratbert 66
3dit0r 52
CMB Integrations - Bruce 43
Ian 28
Martins HiFi 27
Top Posters
VirusKiller 12354
Fiddler 8666
ncpl 8455
Carl 7727
Ian 7494
Forum Stats
4,649 Registered Members
17 Forums
24,983 Topics
255,126 Posts

Most users ever online: 211 @ 2015-05-05 14:40
Meridian  |  Media Centre  |  Support  |  Firmware Release Notes  |  RSS Systems  |  RSS Streaming  |  RSS Restaurant