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#273726 - 2018-02-25 10:47 Re: KEF LS50W [Re: Ogri]
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#273727 - 2018-02-25 13:40 Re: KEF LS50W [Re: Nstzya]
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Originally Posted By Nstzya
Only a few hours on them but I can already say that these blow away the Devialet Gold Phantoms that I just sent back on trial. Phantoms were far too bass heavy and recessed.
Devialet readily acknowledge that their Phantoms are sealed products: once they’re out of warranty, Devialet won’t replace (repair) them.

As for the ‘budget’ Meridian 5k arguement vs the LS50W’s, the Meridian’s are not a self-contained system. You can’t add a subwoofer to them - that requires a Meridian surround processor to which you can then add a subwoofer.

Add an MQA capable streamer to the LS50W’s, plus Subwoofer, and you have a stunning system.


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#273730 - 2018-02-25 14:27 Re: KEF LS50W [Re: spinaltap]
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I thought it was pretty easy to run a sub off a pair of 5ks (no processor)? Not sure if you’d actually need a sub though. As a one box system, they’re not missing much, Velcro a pi on the back...

Add an MQA streamer and sub, yes you would have a stunning system but at a price.

I don’t understand why people don’t take cost into account here. Comparing things costing three times more, I’d expect a pretty big upgrade SQ wise.

People having these as kitchen speakers suggest budget isn’t too material to them.

Seems like a lot on this forum are turning against Meridian. Kind of begs the question...

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#273731 - 2018-02-25 14:38 Re: KEF LS50W [Re: Ogri]
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Originally Posted By Ogri
Seems like a lot on this forum are turning against Meridian. Kind of begs the question...
I think since Roon came along people who used to have Sooloos systems and mostly Meridian equipment have had the opportunity to try other manufacturers endpoints and other equipment and have found themselves appreciating that where Meridian once were out in front others have either caught up or overtaken them and in some cases for less cost.


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#273732 - 2018-02-25 15:30 Re: KEF LS50W [Re: Ogri]
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Originally Posted By Ogri
I thought it was pretty easy to run a sub off a pair of 5ks (no processor)?
On the LS50W’s you can adjust the crossover frequency between Speakers and Subwoofer. There’s a dedicated Subwoofer output in the LS50W’s. You can’t do that on a pair of 5k’s.


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#273733 - 2018-02-25 15:31 Re: KEF LS50W [Re: Ratbert]
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I get all that but you can use Roon and other endpoints with Meridian speakers, which is the point.

It’s the value vs SQ. I think you’ll struggle to beat used 5ks plus pi, so I’m intrigued, what caught up with or overtaken for less than a pi and a pair?

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#273734 - 2018-02-25 15:33 Re: KEF LS50W [Re: Ogri]
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I strongly suggest you go audition a pair of LS50W’s. Then you can make a comparative judgement.


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#273737 - 2018-02-25 15:56 Re: KEF LS50W [Re: spinaltap]
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I’ll have a go, £2-3k though...

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#273739 - 2018-02-25 16:31 Re: KEF LS50W [Re: Ogri]
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They’re <£2k retail: less if you negotiate a discount.


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#273740 - 2018-02-25 17:06 Re: KEF LS50W [Re: spinaltap]
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Plus streamer plus sub? I give up.

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#273743 - 2018-02-25 17:22 Re: KEF LS50W [Re: spinaltap]
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In USA, Crutchfield is an online retailer who very wisely offers free two day shipping 60 day in home no questions asked full refund trial - just pay return shipping. Myself, I could care less to listen in a showroom. I wanna hear them in my environment and at my extended leisure without a salesman looming.

And I think that a comparison by original price is a fair one to get you in the same ball park. But I accept SQ for current cost on a value basis as a valid point as well. KEF’s win by a mile (kilometer?) based upon initial prices ($2200 vs $7000 - and those are 20 year old inflated dollars - more like $11k in today’s dollars). Granted I already own the 5k’s worth perhaps $500 (?) - now add to that a board update to 24/96 and recap them and replace my tweeters and add a pi and a I-tech to provide iPad remote control and a streamer and I’m now near or past $2200 and have a large floor stander with a bunch of warts and wires hanging off the back vs this sleek modern compact decor friendly speaker that can sit on a desk, stand, or easily on either side of a TV. And it can accept optical digital and analogue (and has a nice A/D section). And it will still probably sound better. Yes, they are that good.

(btw, A sub can be daisy chained off and controlled by the 5k’s but it has to be a Meridian digital one...)


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#273744 - 2018-02-25 17:25 Re: KEF LS50W [Re: Ogri]
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KEF doesn’t need a streamer. Or a sub in a smaller space.


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