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#267755 - 2017-09-12 19:48 AppleTV 4K
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spinaltap Offline
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While the new AppleTV 4K is UHD capable, it also supports FLAC.

Unfortunately, the tech specs appears to indicate that the ATV4K is still crippled by 16/48.


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#267814 - 2017-09-15 12:24 Re: AppleTV 4K [Re: spinaltap]
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You may be right but I didn’t see that limit in the Audio specs.

It says less than 48kHz in the video sections.

I’m tempted to get one.


- Fiddler (IMHO)

If you think listening to music is fun, try learning an instrument.
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#267822 - 2017-09-15 16:00 Re: AppleTV 4K [Re: Fiddler]
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Me too. Let me know what else you learn or find when you get it.

I was told, somewhat recently, that Apple TV 1s have a 96K audio chip, and, can potentially pass on an unfolded MQA stream from Tidal. I have four 1s (one of which is jail broken) I may hookup them up to TVs and the AV receiver (the new one) on the lower level of my house to get cheap Roon zones which can be grouped.

I wonder if jail broken is required before it can be used with Roon?


James
NC1: 861v4+ID40, 218, MS200 (to outdoors), DSP8000SE (upgraded). 5500VC, 5500s, Hsu Research ULS15x2, DirecTV, Oppo BD103, QNAP251, Roon
NC2-see FL 2 with Triad Silver Speakers

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#267927 - 2017-09-21 18:44 Re: AppleTV 4K [Re: Mtns]
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I hope its true that Apple have promised to add Dolby Atmos to the new Apple Tv even if M don't have a solution for it without going 3rd party . Apple's layers-of-an-onion approach to covering all the tech bases can be just as annoying as M's glacially slow catch up to modern formats .

~M~


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#267931 - 2017-09-21 19:51 Re: AppleTV 4K [Re: Meridialien]
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Would be a great Kaleidescape Strato alternative if they allow full 4K downloads onto NAS drive from iTunes...


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#267936 - 2017-09-21 22:20 Re: AppleTV 4K [Re: spinaltap]
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24/48 isn’t the only issue

Sounds terribly familiar and terribly Apple all over again.
Verge Apple TV Review

I was looking forward to it but after reading this I may wait.

The only reason I want it at the moment is for access to CBS All access for the new Star Trek Discovery series. My LG TV has great NetFlix and Amazon built in.


- Fiddler (IMHO)

If you think listening to music is fun, try learning an instrument.
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#268028 - 2017-09-26 12:35 Apple TV 4K
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I can't determine if this 4k does what the 1st gen does in terms of 96K audio chip AQ based on the below:


Video Formats

H.264/HEVC SDR video up to 2160p, 60 fps, Main/Main 10 profile

HEVC Dolby Vision (Profile 5)/HDR10 (Main 10 profile) up to 2160p

H.264 Baseline Profile level 3.0 or lower with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats

MPEG-4 video up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 fps, Simple profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats


Audio Formats

HE-AAC (V1), AAC (up to 320 Kbps), protected AAC (from iTunes Store), MP3 (up to 320 Kbps), MP3 VBR, Apple Lossless, FLAC, AIFF, and WAV; AC-3 (Dolby Digital 5.1) and E-AC-3 (Dolby Digital Plus 7.1 surround sound)

i don't use ATV for watching movies or anything other than lossless streaming into my HD621.

thx!

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#268191 - 2017-10-01 18:22 Re: Apple TV 4K [Re: _M_]
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Will the 4K / 2.0 HDMI work with a HD621?


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#268202 - 2017-10-02 07:30 Re: Apple TV 4K [Re: Struttmaster]
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The HD621 can pass some 4K media but it won't be HDCP 2.2 compliant so you will need the new Meridian switching box.


Main system - Sources (Kodi-HTPC, Vero 4k, FireTV, Sat) into Trinnov Altitude 32 (8-16) (+Roon), Trinnov Amplitude 8 amp & Vivid Audio (Giya G3, V1.5) and REL Stentor III speakers. Others: F80 + Raspberry Pi and other Pi systems.
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#268205 - 2017-10-02 12:22 Re: Apple TV 4K [Re: Cliff.]
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Thanks Cliff


HT: G68ADV w/LPS, HD621, 5000C, Marantz BD, 218, REL SW, analogue fronts & DSP5000 rears.
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Family Room: Allo digi, 568.2mm, 598, 3100's, REL SW
Upstairs: SBT, Explorer2
BBQ/Party: Raspberry Pi, F80
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#268219 - 2017-10-02 17:38 Re: AppleTV 4K [Re: Simon Mirren]
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Loc: Ireland
Originally Posted By Simon Mirren
Would be a great Kaleidescape Strato alternative if they allow full 4K downloads onto NAS drive from iTunes...
4K is streaming only. Downloads prohibited unfortunately.

~M~


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#269431 - 2017-10-30 08:27 Re: AppleTV 4K [Re: spinaltap]
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Loc: nr. Paris, France
Hello

I have currently the apple TV 4th gen, and when I stream music (tune in, youtube etc..) connected to my HD621 and G65, I only have dolby pro logic sound, looks like I cannot send the sound to be processed by the my G65

am I doing something wrong in the settings ?
if the ATV cannot allow my G65 to process the sound, do you know if the new ATV 4K will ? and if I will get better sound ? (over 16bits)

thank you


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