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#267093 - 2017-08-22 11:11 Meridian 210 Streamer
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Originally Posted By Meridian Press Release
CEDIA will preview the Meridian 210 streamer, designed to bring Bluetooth, Airplay and Spotify Connect to Meridian products!!
Shame the 210 doesn't seem to support RAAT as well.


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#267097 - 2017-08-22 12:32 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: dpstjp]
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Shame they couldn't just roll it up into the 218 as a single network endpoint.


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#267099 - 2017-08-22 13:57 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: IanM]
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What exactly is meant by "streamer". And how do they integrate those services.

Is this an MC200 replacement with those services added to the Sooloos backend?

All will become clear later, I guess.


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#267100 - 2017-08-22 14:02 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: dpstjp]
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Originally Posted By dpstjp
Shame the 210 doesn't seem to support RAAT as well.
Does it state that somewhere?

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#267101 - 2017-08-22 14:37 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: GMT]
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I too hope RAAT is supported. I've never managed to get my ID40 + ID41 to play fair with both Sooloos and Roon.

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#267105 - 2017-08-22 16:34 Meridian 210 Streamer
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Looks like I jumped a week too early when I bought the rBlink for my son's DSP5000s last week, unless of course the 210 has no SPDIF connection.


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#267107 - 2017-08-22 16:47 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Ludwig]
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Originally Posted By Ludwig
What exactly is meant by "streamer". And how do they integrate those services.

Is this an MC200 replacement with those services added to the Sooloos backend?

All will become clear later, I guess.
Hi Ludwig,

I'm hoping this is a simple Bluetooth link to Meridian speakers that will handle music files and streaming services from phones, laptops etc. My (young adult) children only listen to music from their phone/laptop and moan at me CONSTANTLY that they can't play their playlists on my system.

Hopefully this is the ideal bridge into Meridian systems and allows us oldies to help them utilise all these second hand 'retro styled' legacy actives kicking around...

Mat


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#267108 - 2017-08-22 16:54 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Mat]
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Originally Posted By Mat
designed to bring Bluetooth, Airplay and Spotify Connect to Meridian products
I take it this means adding Airplay requires a paid hardware option.

It looks like there was an attempt to add this via software (Control 15 software includes shairport-sync) - but I've never played with a real one to see if there is an easy way to turn it on. (I've never seen any references to it as a feature, only appears in the Control:One/Ten/Fifteen software (now obsolete), and I never had a need to use Airplay to actually test it out)

Presumably the 218 per zone replaces Sooloos Core initial decode of MQA that was actually promised (feedback would be nice).

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#267110 - 2017-08-22 17:18 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: MattF]
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Google Caskeid.com and all may become clear. M signed an agreement for wireless technology from them a couple of years back 😀 May even deliver miltichannel hi Rez playback.

It would be a shame if the 218 can't get a software update. MQA and Meridian are listed on their website as partners. Roon is not listed. Could this be the technology which reawakens Sooloos? Could Spotify, etc. be offered along with Tidal?


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#267111 - 2017-08-22 18:28 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: dpstjp]
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Do you have a source - link for the 210 streamer ?


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#267112 - 2017-08-22 19:01 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: RobertW]
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Originally Posted By RobertW
Do you have a source - link for the 210 streamer ?
Does this work: CEDIA 2017 show review press release Aug 2017


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#267114 - 2017-08-22 19:22 Re: UHD722 HDMI Processor 4K Switch [Re: Meridialien]
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Quote:
The second new product, the Meridian 210 streamer, is designed to bring Bluetooth, Airplay and Spotify Connect to Meridian products.
Okay, so I get that they need new hardware to support Bluetooth input, but I would think that Airplay and Spotify could and should be added to their existing Sooloos products?


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#267121 - 2017-08-22 21:20 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Mat]
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+1+1 smile smile cool


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#267127 - 2017-08-23 02:39 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: dpstjp]
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Photo in this tweet from 5 days ago had me scratching my head. The unusual layout on the board. Looks like it may be a card? Is it the streamer itself or a part of it?


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#267129 - 2017-08-23 05:31 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Soundserge]
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It look like more a small PCB with filter parts from a PS input?

It could be a small unit for a rack which make sense for custom installations as like all other new products from M are.


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#267307 - 2017-08-28 02:42 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: RobertW]
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Argh!
Recently bought the Audioengine streamer.


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#267490 - 2017-09-03 18:27 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: MagnusB]
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I suspect that the 210 formal debut will follow on the heels of Apple's likely announcement of FLAC hi-res file compatibility with iTunes/iOS 11.


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#267609 - 2017-09-07 12:12 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: dpstjp]
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Originally Posted By Meridian Press Release
CEDIA will preview the Meridian 210 streamer, designed to bring Bluetooth, Airplay and Spotify Connect to Meridian products!!
Two days into CEDIA, does anyone have any more info on the 210?


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#267687 - 2017-09-10 15:23 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: IanM]
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Possibly, there's an embargo on Apple Airplay2 (Tuesday).


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#267690 - 2017-09-10 16:16 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: IanM]
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Found it!


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#267702 - 2017-09-11 06:34 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: VirusKiller]
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Found it!
So it's based on long-standing, low cost and robust transmission protocols.

And includes a manual user interface, Perfect!


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#267830 - 2017-09-15 17:32 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: IanM]
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I attended CEDIA and the 210 on display was a prototype (only a small black box with no rear connections similar in size to the 218). I'm sorry I didn't take a photo. If I'm not mistaken the sign said coming later this year.

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#267914 - 2017-09-20 20:32 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: dpstjp]
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Meridian Audio at CEDIA 2017 video, at about 3 min 20 they talk about it.

You can briefly see it at 1 min! Very briefly though...


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#267915 - 2017-09-20 21:24 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Edo]
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US$750, shipping TBD.
Will have SpeakerLink and could therefore be used to stream AirPlay, BT & Spotify music to DSPs using only the 210.

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#267916 - 2017-09-21 05:02 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Soundserge]
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Thanks, but without proper specs impossible to know what the thing is at all. Does it even have onboard storage? (If it's the box at the bottom it looks tiny, like a NUC.)


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#267920 - 2017-09-21 07:07 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Ludwig]
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Remind me, do we know if it unfolds MQA? I've seen no mention of this.


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#267924 - 2017-09-21 16:09 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Ludwig]
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Would love to see a photo of the business end as well as the specs myself. I was merely transcribing what I heard the M representative say in the video to save people time.

Although, why do some think this streamer would have storage? I expect this to be a box that converts (for lack of a better word) BT, AirPlay and Spotify to SpeakerLink.


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#267925 - 2017-09-21 16:50 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Soundserge]
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From the lack of details on the workings of the 210 in the video other than it will stream, the position on the bottom shelf with no closeup image and an open timeline on its release I suspect it may well have been a dummy case?


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#272551 - 2018-02-01 15:55 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Ratbert]
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“Exclusively for ISE 2018, integrators also will be able to preview the 210 Streamer, designed to bring Bluetooth, Apple Airplay, and Spotify Connect to Meridian products.”

In the news...


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#272567 - 2018-02-01 19:48 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Soundserge]
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It sounds quite exciting. What do we think the ticket pice will be? After hitting the 722 price squarely on the head I worry about tempting fate twice!


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#272568 - 2018-02-01 19:54 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Not'arf]
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$1000.00 msrp


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#272570 - 2018-02-01 20:03 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Do we know what it looks like? And is it also a Sooloos endpoint with MQA?


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#272573 - 2018-02-01 20:15 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Very interested to hear this, given how dCs are able to flatter Spotify in their own kit. I've mentioned before, but I was gobsmacked at how they produced a silk purse...

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#272576 - 2018-02-01 20:51 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Originally Posted By CMB Integrations - Bruce
$1000.00 msrp

An AirportExpress provides AirPlay, directly from Apple for just £/$99.


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#272593 - 2018-02-02 10:05 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: spinaltap]
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Sure it does. A Timex and a Rolex both tell time too. Some of my customers replace Apple TV's frequently enough that in a ten year time they will have come pretty close to the cost of the 210.


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#272594 - 2018-02-02 10:11 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Rolex comes in a stylish case though whistle
I agree comparing Apple TV to the 210 is not really relevant.


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#272595 - 2018-02-02 10:11 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Originally Posted By CMB Integrations - Bruce
Sure it does. A Timex and a Rolex both tell time too. Some of my cutomers replace Apple tv's frequently enough that in a ten year time they will have come pretty close to the cost of the 210.
Oh dear back to the Digital v Analogue discussion again but with prices reversed.
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#272598 - 2018-02-02 13:37 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Originally Posted By CMB Integrations - Bruce
Some of my customers replace Apple TV's frequently enough that in a ten year time they will have come pretty close to the cost of the 210.
An AppleTV truncates its audio output to 16/48: an AirPort Express doesn’t - it passes its 16/44 (toslink) signal intact. That makes the 210 way over priced for what it does, just because it has ‘Meridian’ printed on it.


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#272599 - 2018-02-02 13:59 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: spinaltap]
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Not making any judgements about the MSRP of the 210, but presumably the Meridian badge also comes with integration features such as SpeakerLink. This will enable volume control etc.


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#272600 - 2018-02-02 14:04 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Soundserge]
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Exactly. I would also expect that it would be capable of higher resolution as well.


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#272608 - 2018-02-02 15:42 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Jeje]
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Originally Posted By Jeje
is it also a Sooloos endpoint with MQA?
or is it just an expensive watch?

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#272727 - 2018-02-06 11:32 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Richard W]
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Sorry I was clearly being too obtuse, not for the first time.

Did we ever get an answer if this thing is an endpoint for MQA?

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#272743 - 2018-02-06 17:56 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Richard W]
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ISE 2018 started today so there might be some info around.

Brian


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System 2: G91A, MS200, DSP5000 (96/24v1), DSP3300.
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#272902 - 2018-02-09 16:56 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: bxd]
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#272908 - 2018-02-09 17:55 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: spinaltap]
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210 was not advertised for ISE 2018


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#272911 - 2018-02-09 18:01 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: JaapJan]
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Website says:

“Exclusively for ISE 2018, we will preview the 210 Streamer, designed to bring Bluetooth, Apple Airplay and Spotify Connect to Meridian products”


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#272916 - 2018-02-09 19:04 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: bxd]
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By deduction, isn’t the unit top left in this picture the 210? Looks similar to the 218 next to it, only without the Analog In/Out.

Soundserge


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#272917 - 2018-02-09 19:07 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Soundserge]
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The left unit might actually be another 218, with what seems to be a piece of paper masking the analogue in/out.


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#272918 - 2018-02-09 19:11 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Jeje]
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Haha you are correct. I had to zoom in. It’s a piece of a shelf blocking those ports. False alarm!


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#272919 - 2018-02-09 19:28 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Soundserge]
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In the text, someone asks “What about the 210”


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#273059 - 2018-02-12 19:33 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: bxd]
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I asked them loads of question about the 210 and roadmap in general on that very image.
All deleted within hours.


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#273701 - 2018-02-24 11:36 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: gIzzE]
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I spoke to my Meridian dealer in Stockholm last week and he had no clue about the launch date of the 210 !


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#275626 - 2018-05-01 15:16 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: NavSWEDEN]
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Any new news on the 210


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#275628 - 2018-05-01 16:50 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Jon Raines]
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Nothing that I’m aware of but we might be waiting on Apple launching Airplay2.

Brian


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System 2: G91A, MS200, DSP5000 (96/24v1), DSP3300.
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#275657 - 2018-05-02 14:00 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Jon Raines]
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I expect it is 'all hands on deck' to get the 271 out at the moment, and once that's available attention will move to 210.
Best guess July / August?

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#277884 - 2018-07-11 16:25 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: AudioImages - Rick]
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Any news on the 210 streamer?


Jerome
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Movies: NAS -> Oppo BDP-93 -> HD621 -> G68D -> DSP8.2k + DSP5200HC front / DSP33 Rears
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#277885 - 2018-07-11 17:14 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Jeje]
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Jerome,
Last I heard was August.


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#277890 - 2018-07-12 00:52 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Bruce,
Which year?


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#277892 - 2018-07-12 01:40 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Thanks Bruce.

Are we expecting these to look like the 218, without any front volume (similar to the AC200), or even just an off button like on the MS600, which is way more user friendly than an app only control?


Jerome
Music: MC200 -> MS600 -> G68D -> DSP8.2k + DSP5200HC front / DSP33 Rears
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#277901 - 2018-07-12 09:42 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: MagnusB]
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2018 Magnus.


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#277925 - 2018-07-13 10:51 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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If it's that close presumably M have got some idea of what capabilities and connections it has?


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#277929 - 2018-07-13 11:11 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: dpstjp]
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I think you presume too much 😜


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#277985 - 2018-07-17 10:35 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Jon Raines]
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I assume there is an embargo on dealers saying anything about the 210 or are they not allowed to say. grin


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#278430 - 2018-08-10 21:00 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Ratbert]
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Well into August now, any updates anyone?

Cheers

George

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#278432 - 2018-08-10 21:55 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Mr Meridian]
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On the Meridian website, they list the products for the CEDIA Expo in Sept, but no mention of the 210.

Brian


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#278434 - 2018-08-10 22:56 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Mr Meridian]
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Nope


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#278439 - 2018-08-11 08:40 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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#278448 - 2018-08-11 11:27 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Ratbert]
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Originally Posted By Ratbert
I assume there is an embargo on dealers saying anything about the 210 or are they not allowed to say. grin

I'm afraid I can't tell you if we can say anything about it or not.
confused

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#278450 - 2018-08-11 12:39 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: AudioImages - Rick]
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#278618 - 2018-08-24 07:52 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Ratbert]
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Was it August this year or next year?


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#278619 - 2018-08-24 10:04 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: dpstjp]
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So far a ship date has not been released. I was told there would be no information on it until they were ready to ship.


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#278621 - 2018-08-24 15:15 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: dpstjp]
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Originally Posted By dpstjp
Was it August this year or next year?
Well it was supposed to be August this year, but it's been put back.
My guess is end of the Year.

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#278647 - 2018-08-26 16:47 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: dpstjp]
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So how about a poll. Based solely on what we know, the 210 will utilize Airplay 2 to play music from an iPhone to your Meridian speakers/system. Who will actually buy one?


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#278648 - 2018-08-26 17:05 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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What does it cost?

Bruce I see you stated $1000 US (someone else stated $750).

Since it’s been a year and it’s still not available is there a set price?


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#278651 - 2018-08-26 20:52 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: JOE-C]
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That is what I have heard. The latest June 2018 price list says TBD. I have retail price lists as I seem to remember someone asking about that. So PM me if you want one.


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#278654 - 2018-08-27 06:43 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Originally Posted By CMB Integrations - Bruce
So how about a poll. Based solely on what we know, the 210 will utilize Airplay 2 to play music from an IPhone to your Meridian speakers/system. Who will actually buy one?

I suspect this will be way too expensive for what it offers. So not me.

(Sadly this reflects a number of meridians recent offerings, the 722 being a case in point)

Cheers
Greg


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#278655 - 2018-08-27 09:42 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Originally Posted By CMB Integrations - Bruce
That is what I have heard. The latest June 2018 price list says TBD.
Am I right to assume this (TBD) means To Be Decided or alternatively To Be Deleted?
It is odd that a price of 1000 US dollars has been posted without M having completed the product. This gives the impression of a wet finger in the air to check the wind direction.
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#278656 - 2018-08-27 09:52 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Hector]
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Hi Hector,

There is a link to a Cedia 2017 video, earlier in the thread, where $750 is mentioned. Therefore a price hike above that is very likely.

Brian


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#278657 - 2018-08-27 10:17 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: bxd]
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To answer Bruces poll no I wont be using Airplay 2 to stream to Meridian and neither will my Gen Z children - they either listen/watch on their i device or with a bluetooth speaker or on the smart TV (netflix,amazon,spotify,youtube). Despite my protestations at MP3 quality, convenience trumps quality. For myself I use i device/android for control and all data streams are via cable.


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#278658 - 2018-08-27 10:40 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Fitcaz]
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I heard from a reputable source that it was likely to have:

Spotify support
Airplay (2) support
Bluetooth possibly?
Roon RAAT protocol support
No Sooloos support

But the product does seem to be more rumour than reality, perhaps Hector is right with the ‘finger in the air’ thought?


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#278659 - 2018-08-27 11:16 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Fitcaz]
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This is the type of feedback I was looking for. Thank you and keep it coming.


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#278660 - 2018-08-27 12:17 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Ratbert]
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A bit odd not supporting their own product ( Sooloos),
A tad disappointing


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#278661 - 2018-08-27 12:30 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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For my purposes AirPlay alone will not cut it. I can do that today with a 218 + an AP Express and I rarely use it.

Spotify - not compelling enough. I’d rather see Spotify integrated in Roon even if as a low res alternative for party playlists (only thing I use Tidal for).

Roon RAAT - Somewhat interesting, but I’d rather have that in a card that fits an 818.


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#278662 - 2018-08-27 14:01 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Soundserge]
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IMHO :-

- [No requirement for Airplay]

- Unless it's Roon compatible, it's (literally) useless for me as a streamer.

- Spotify may be interesting at some point, as Soundserge says, but I'd prefer it if that feature was integrated within Roon (which Meridian can't control).

- [Sooloos is legacy for me too - no requirement - but also curious that it's missing]

- Bluetooth / WiFi should be mandatory - will only be used from time to time / by visitors - but needs to be there for those eventualities.

- I'd also expect a LAN connection / MQA decoding / SpeakerLink connections to be essential.

-> This basically all adds-up to a 218 with additional functionality?! Am struggling to see the point of the 210, particularly at the aforementioned price-points and would probably suggest / prefer a 218v2!


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#278663 - 2018-08-27 15:28 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Bruce,

I'd want LAN as well as WiFi, RAAT over Sooloos, I'm indifferent to Airplay 2 etc but can see that without these the 210 makes no sense, MQA particularly as this is a streamer and that's how most MQA is delivered.

I don't know why they ditched the form factor that fitted inside the in-wall DSPs. People tell me that the 218 is small enough to hide but if I were looking to put in-ceiling DSPs in my house I'd like the 210 to fit inside them as the MS200 does rather than having to have a rack somewhere. It's just a more elegant solution.

Do I get the sense the 210 is still so much work-in-progress there's still time to make changes?


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#278664 - 2018-08-27 15:50 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: dpstjp]
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Hi Bruce

Half the family is on Android, and the other half Apple, but they use Bluetooth (as do we Android users) so Airplay is completely irrelevant to us. Guests use Bluetooth to portable speakers here.

I'd want Spotify Connect, I've heard how good dCS can make a 320k stream sound, and I'd like Meridian to do the same.

I'd also want Roon compatibility, it would be really remiss if it was missing that crucial feature when most other manufacturers are onboard.

LAN and WIFi connectivity, and proper Coax SPDIF out, not just SpeakerLink.

With all of the above included, I think £750 would be the absolute maximum they could ask, and TBH my own feeling is that such a spec isn't actually worth more than £450.

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#278666 - 2018-08-27 17:42 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Mr Meridian]
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My concern, especially for the likely cost, is not what it supports now, but what it will support in couple of years time.

It's a fast moving sector and unfortunately, I don't honestly see Meridian being able to keep up making it soon obsolete.

Now, if Meridian made a Prime sized case with open source internals and quality hardware that could be user updated similar to Pi, then, depending on price, that would be a different story. But I honestly cannot see that happening, in the same way that whilst I think it would be a good move, I cannot see them opening up Sooloos - but could see it supporting Raat which would be a good thing. But like some of the other comments, its rumour.


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#278670 - 2018-08-27 20:37 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Ian]
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I think that despite HQ possibly seeing Roon as a flash-in-the-pan back in the post-divorce 2014+ I would not be surprised if their views have now changed. The reality is that the Roon vision and mission has been very successful now. The innovative work that Roon did with MQA decode and preserve the render suggests a good relationship exists.

A large number of the brands that M have to compete with in this fast moving scene are supporting RAAT.
Roon is the leader in this field on so many fronts. It would make good sense.

What I don’t know is what RAAT would bring to M over and above the Sooloos protocol.

If everything is still rate and format limited as it is today then not much.

How or whether M’s architecture could handle more I don’t know.

Could RAAT be retrofitted to other units like the 8x8 range ?

It seems clear that M isn’t and probably shouldn’t do anything more with Sooloos (IMHO)


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#278674 - 2018-08-28 00:03 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Jon Raines]
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Originally Posted By Jon Raines
A bit odd not supporting their own product ( Sooloos),
A tad disappointing
Agreed and more than a tad disappointing.


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#278677 - 2018-08-28 12:33 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Jdb-si]
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It makes sense to me that it doesn't necessarily have to support Sooloos. The 218 is for that.

If those specs are correct, it looks like the 210 can be used as an extender for the 218. Want Sooloos, or analogue in, or digital in (SPDIF/Toslink), or SL in: get a 218. Just want Roon and Airplay or Roon and bluetooth: get a 210. Want Sooloos and Bluetooth: get both.

The only way of avoiding buying both in some circumstances is to make a box which is twice as powerful, probably twice as big, and twice as expensive.

If the 210 is really Roon Ready and outputs 192 and DSD to SL, the 818v3 will accept that and we are most of the way to a Roon-enabled 818v4. But according to Sooloos publicity, a built-in card sounds better than going through an unclocked PCM interface.

This is all speculation and I'm very curious what the 210 ends up being able to do, if it ever arrives.


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#278678 - 2018-08-28 13:19 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Ludwig]
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Do you think that the Sooloos client needs more power than the Roon client? Presumably it will only play one source at a time.

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#278681 - 2018-08-28 14:15 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: GMT]
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It’s a stereo device, sure it will play only one source at a time!

Or is that not what you mean?


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#278687 - 2018-08-28 19:46 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Ludwig]
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Partially - what I was really getting at is, is it likely that it would have enough processing power to support Roon but not Sooloos?

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#278689 - 2018-08-28 20:41 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: GMT]
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I don’t believe any decision to support Roon over Sooloos would be down to hardware performance, more a business decision.


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#278692 - 2018-08-28 21:28 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Ratbert]
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That would be my thought too although would be tough to justify to Sooloos customers if Roon appeared on both devices but Sooloos only on one.


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#278699 - 2018-08-29 08:30 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Hi Bruce, for me to consider buying a 210, it would need to do three things:

1. Full comms control of my 818v3 (I think that this is probably a given).
2. RAAT endpoint, accepting at least 192k PCM and DSD64 (176k DoP).
3. Pass >96k PCM and 176k DoP over SpeakerLink output (to my 818v3).

A 4th feature, MQA decoding and the ability to pass this to my 5200SEs, might make me consider buying a second, replacing my 218. (Though if/when the SEs get the ability to render decoded MQA streams, this would not be necessary.)

I would of course prefer a RAAT card for the 818, but architecturally, I'm not sure that 176/192k (inc. DoP) could be transported from an "ID42" to the main input card (which is where all of the 176/192k inputs are currently, and where MQA decoding (and I suspect DSD transcoding) takes place).

Ultimately though, I get the feeling that the 210 is not for "us" on this forum, but a product to sate trophy wives and their kids and friends who want to stream from iDevices in the context of a whole house installation. (I'm not intending to be pejorative or misogynistic here, but I wanted a blunt way to describe this.)


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#278778 - 2018-09-07 15:03 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: dpstjp]
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I had a production sample in my hands yesterday.


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#278779 - 2018-09-07 15:21 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Are you at liberty to say more or is that it.


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#278782 - 2018-09-07 15:52 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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That's very welcome news!

Cheers

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#278783 - 2018-09-07 15:55 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Jon Raines]
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It's the Rolls Royce approach.

How many streaming services? "sufficient streaming services"

How many outputs? "sufficient outputs"

Etc...

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#278784 - 2018-09-07 16:36 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Is this product for the US only, or would a UK retailer have also received a production sample.
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#278786 - 2018-09-07 17:18 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Hector]
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I havent received one. I was at the trade show


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#278787 - 2018-09-07 17:30 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Thanks Bruce
This begs the next question.
Was it a working model, or just a space sample?
Interested to know.
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#278788 - 2018-09-07 18:12 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Hector]
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It was not plugged into power but it appeared to be a full production unit. They are apparently waiting on Apple approval for release.


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#278795 - 2018-09-08 16:51 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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It's on show at Cedia too : Meridian 210

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#278796 - 2018-09-08 17:14 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Meridialien]
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At 0:29 into that video Hugo mentions that the 210 has a Roon Endpoint built in ... I hope that means it supports the RAAT network protocol and not Sooloos.

Regards,
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#278797 - 2018-09-08 17:36 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Carl]
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I’ll be a bit dissapointed if it’s not also a Sooloos end point.
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#278799 - 2018-09-08 18:04 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: bxd]
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+1

Is there a technical reason why it couldn’t be both Sooloos and Roon compatible?


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#278800 - 2018-09-08 18:52 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Jeje]
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I don’t believe their is 😉


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#278801 - 2018-09-08 18:55 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Jeje]
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Technically it's hard to comment on without knowing the hardware and software implementation.

Though from a purely functional point of view I think concurrent support both RAAT and Sooloos protocols might be tricky, but having a configuration to enable one over the other would be the way to overcome.

Interesting times ahead, let's see once one of us gets their hands on a unit.

Regards,
Carl

PS Of course alternatively Meridian could update the their existing devices and migrate them to support RAAT (and potentially remove the 96K limit while they at it) ... now that would be a win-win for all of us.


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#278802 - 2018-09-08 19:56 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Carl]
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Bruce was kind enough to invite me to join him at CEDIA Thursday. I stopped by the Meridian booth and talked with Hugo for a few minutes. He told be the only remaining hold up on the 210 is Apple approval as Bruce said. He also told me the same things we saw in the video.

I asked him if the 210 was limited to 96KHz and he confirmed that it was. He didn't mention Sooloos and I didn't think to ask him about it. Since he didn't mention it in the video or our fairly detailed discussion about the 210 I'd have to guess it doesn't support Sooloos. Hope I'm wrong.

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#278803 - 2018-09-08 20:08 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Kswanson]
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Originally Posted By Kswanson
I asked him if the 210 was limited to 96KHz and he confirmed that it was.
That's a really big miss, as many potential users have >96k files ... SpeakerLink is capable of at least 192KHz ... and so is the 8x8 USB input... It's hard to fathom M sometimes.


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#278805 - 2018-09-08 21:56 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Kswanson]
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It supports Sooloos and Roon. I asked that specific question.


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#278806 - 2018-09-08 23:08 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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#278807 - 2018-09-08 23:48 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Originally Posted By CMB Integrations - Bruce
It supports Sooloos and Roon. I asked that specific question.


That's good to hear.

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#278810 - 2018-09-09 08:29 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Carl]
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Presumably the support of Sooloos is what's behind the 96 KHz limit again. It really is leaving them behind in the DAC race.


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#278811 - 2018-09-09 09:06 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: JobSeeker]
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Especially with DAC’s in Audiolab, Quad, (24/384) and Rotel (32/768) - and TEAC (MQA) can upsample to 32/784.


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#278812 - 2018-09-09 09:36 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Kswanson]
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It’s not a DAC is it?


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#278816 - 2018-09-09 16:31 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Kswanson]
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Originally Posted By CMB Integrations - Bruce
It supports Sooloos and Roon. I asked that specific question.
The question might be whether Roon is supported because Roon supports the Sooloos protocol rather than because the 210 uses RAAT...


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#278832 - 2018-09-10 19:58 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Jeremy A-H]
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I’d also like to ask Bruce if he held a RAAT-using 818v4 in his hands too. Or even asked about it.


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#278833 - 2018-09-10 20:45 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Ludwig]
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#278839 - 2018-09-11 04:51 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Ludwig]
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Originally Posted By Ludwig
I’d also like to ask Bruce if he held a RAAT-using 818v4 in his hands too. Or even asked about it.

Bruce re ?-it is possible this is sarcasm😬


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#278857 - 2018-09-11 19:58 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Mtns]
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No it was a genuine question. Bruce do you know anything about RAAT coming to the 818? Can you ask?


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#278860 - 2018-09-12 00:10 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Ludwig]
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I will be happy to ask


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#278866 - 2018-09-12 15:24 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Originally Posted By CMB Integrations - Bruce
It supports Sooloos and Roon. I asked that specific question.
Can you double check this with your source please Bruce.

I have always been told that the 210 will NOT support Sooloos, and have checked again yesterday.

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#278882 - 2018-09-12 20:59 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: AudioImages - Rick]
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Is that USB an input or output?


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#278887 - 2018-09-12 22:06 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: AudioImages - Rick]
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I asked at the Cedia expo about Sooloos and was told yes


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#278894 - 2018-09-13 09:59 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Originally Posted By AudioImages - Rick
Can you double check this with your source please Bruce.
I have always been told that the 210 will NOT support Sooloos, and have checked again yesterday.

Originally Posted By CMB Integrations - Bruce
I asked at the Cedia expo about Sooloos and was told yes

One of you has the wrong information. frown I smell a RAAT...


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#278896 - 2018-09-13 15:08 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: dpstjp]
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To all. I was given incorrect information. It is a Roon RAAT endpoint only. My apologies for any confusion.


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#278898 - 2018-09-13 16:02 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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So the 210 is a Meridian product that supports 3rd party Roon but not Meridian's own Sooloos. Is this a(nother) sign of the end of Sooloos?

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#278899 - 2018-09-13 17:09 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Caldham]
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Hi Chris,

Not really, the 210 is intended as a partner to the 218, not a replacement, so no reason for it to have Sooloos (again).

The power of SpeakerLink allows the two to be connected together, and then operate like a single unit.

The alternative would have been a '218 plus' with all the 218 and 210 features combined in a single box.
Doing it this way, with two boxes, makes it more flexible and cheaper as you only buy the box(s) which have the features you need.

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#278900 - 2018-09-13 17:10 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Ratbert]
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Originally Posted By Ratbert
One of you has the wrong information. frown I smell a RAAT...
Nice... grin


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#278901 - 2018-09-13 17:12 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Ludwig]
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Originally Posted By Ludwig
No it was a genuine question. Bruce do you know anything about RAAT coming to the 818? Can you ask?
Hi Ludwig,
This is extremely unlikely in the medium term, (but never say never).
I think the ID41 would need a hardware re-work to accommodate RAAT.
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#278910 - 2018-09-14 08:55 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Caldham]
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Originally Posted By Caldham
So the 210 is a Meridian product that supports 3rd party Roon but not Meridian's own Sooloos. Is this a(nother) sign of the end of Sooloos?
Sooloos is a great system but it’s been a legacy product since Roon (which was called Sooloos 3 until it was sold off) was released. Sooloos is not coming to an end. It’s been replaced by Roon. And yet Meridian is also still selling Sooloos endpoints. Good plan, I say, bearing in mind the small but loyal Sooloos fan base.

On the other hand:

Originally Posted By AudioImages - Rick
Originally Posted By Ludwig
No it was a genuine question. Bruce do you know anything about RAAT coming to the 818? Can you ask?
Hi Ludwig,
This is extremely unlikely in the medium term, (but never say never).
I think the ID41 would need a hardware re-work to accommodate RAAT.
Yes I heard that from multiple people who know.

And Meridian have had no time to look into that, seeing as RAAT was released, what, only 3 years ago. crazy


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#278982 - 2018-09-18 12:40 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Meridialien]
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Originally Posted By Meridialien
It's on show at Cedia too : Meridian 210
Another fugly box which looks like it's a circa 1994 modem; what really upsets me is that this is from a company who once won design awards.

If Meridian are really that strapped for design budget, couldn't they at least use an existing design for the casework? Something like the AC200 case minus the buttons? Or even go retro and reboot a cool 200 series case design?

Surely anything would be better than this, it looks like they just don't care any more.


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#278984 - 2018-09-18 12:47 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: 3dit0r]
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It seems that M are concentrating on releasing kit which is not particularly meant to be looked at and intended to appeal more to the CI market. No point adding cost for fancy casework for equipment that’s going to be in a rack / cupboard. I wonder if/when we might see stuff more obviously aimed at consumers. Having said that, I have no problem with the compact footprint of the new 200 series and the commensurate price savings. It’s a long way visually from AC200 and G Series though, and I do like the old 200 designs.


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#278985 - 2018-09-18 13:07 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: JobSeeker]
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I really hope you're right and that's the only reason behind the awful lack of attention to design. When the "new 200 series" products were first announced and Meridian were questioned on the design, though, wasn't there some kind of response along the lines that Meridian thought they looked cool (which I found both depressing and worrying)?

I guess we'll find out when/if Meridian announce new consumer gear...

Yeah, the 'old' 200 series are my favourite Meridian designs, still look stunning now, to my eyes. The Lecson AC1 was really stunning, though, although not technically Meridian, of course, (and apparently rather impractical to manufacture).


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#278987 - 2018-09-18 13:56 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: 3dit0r]
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+1 on the old 200 series still looks fab even now.


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#278989 - 2018-09-18 14:38 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: 3dit0r]
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Price indication?


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#278991 - 2018-09-18 15:48 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: MagnusB]
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#278992 - 2018-09-18 18:55 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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... and here I was hoping it would be less than a 218.


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#279187 - 2018-09-26 02:15 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: JobSeeker]
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What's the value proposition over something like an Audioengine B1?


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#279188 - 2018-09-26 06:14 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: MagnusB]
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They are almost completely different feature sets.


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#279193 - 2018-09-26 14:37 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Ludwig]
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Like what? Roon support, whatever that means?


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#279194 - 2018-09-26 15:26 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: MagnusB]
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It’s Roon Ready and it’s not a DAC. Those are pretty fundamental differences.


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#279201 - 2018-09-27 01:43 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: JobSeeker]
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Well, but the air interface is same. Fancier after that but limited by what goes over the air unless it has WiFi and runs Roon/RAAT over WiFi?
But then you need to use Roon.
Or?


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#279599 - 2018-10-14 18:33 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: MagnusB]
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‘The Integrated Home’ (PP) is listing the 210 at £800.


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#279605 - 2018-10-15 17:08 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: dpstjp]
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Has the 210 been official released yet?

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#279607 - 2018-10-15 19:12 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: D4ve84]
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No


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#279970 - 2018-11-07 19:16 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: spinaltap]
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Anyone seen or heard anything?

Dealers?


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#279971 - 2018-11-07 19:27 Re: Meridian 210 Streamer [Re: Ludwig]
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The reply I had from Meridian, this week...
Quote:
The 210 is expected to be released soon. I cannot give you further detail at this time. I would recommend you register your interest with a Meridian dealer who will update you when their stock is on the way.


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