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#276268 - 2018-05-22 12:31 Re: Meridian 271 and 251 [Re: Linnasak]
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#276902 - 2018-06-09 14:18 Re: Meridian 271 and 251 [Re: Martins HiFi]
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Now that it has finally started to ship has anyone actually tried a 271 and if so what are you trying it with and what Meridian setup are you comparing it to?

Given the current low prices for the Marantz SR7012 and AV7704 it now seems the time to make a move to a 7.2.4 Atmos/DTS:X/Auro-3D setup. With 4 DSP320's added it seems like I could move to a system far superior to my current one for home cinema and probably not far off if no worse in terms of music for less than £7k. I might even be able to squeeze in a 218 for that budget to take care of 2 channel MQA too.

I wouldn't even need my HD621 with such a setup so could recoup a little of the cost by selling it alongside my G61RSL. If nothing else with my now unused MD600, MS600 and G98DH I might even be able to get the upgrade cost below the £6k mark. Seems to good to be true for such an upgrade!

Has anyone a similar system or is contemplating one?

Also can anyone correct me if I am wrong but the RJ45 digital input on the 271 is not Audio over IP.

Many thanks,

Anthony.


Sources: MS600, Oppo UHD-203, HTPC, Roon
Processors: G61RSL, HD621, Lumagen 4240
Outputs: DSP5200SE FL/C/FR, DSP5200VC C, DSP3200 SL/SR/RL/RR, DSWx2, Epson TW-9300.
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#276918 - 2018-06-09 22:13 Re: Meridian 271 and 251 [Re: Anthony-Howard]
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Got mine finally up and running using Marantz 6011 bought as experiment for G68.

Using with 3x5500s, 6 DSP33s, SW1600 and a SW5500 in 7.2.2.

Quite impressed after running Audyssey setup. Watched Passengers Atmos from Sky Q and Mockingjay Part 2 Atmos. Scene of execution at the end really impressive. Will try out a 7.2.4 setup next weekend with some 18bit 5000s (driven by 565) releasing DSP33 for rear height.

Will look at upgrading the Marantz in coming months probably to XLR output processor like Arcam AV860 or Marantz 8805. Would like one of the digital output tees like Storm or Trinnov but they need to introduce a sub £10k model for me. Quite surprised how good a £700 (discounted) bought AVR used as processor is though!

Kevin


Main system: 271, Marantz SR6011, 5500, 5500HC, 8x 33s, OPPO 203, Xbox one S, AppleTV4K, MAC mini, Sony vw760 , Stewart cabaret screen, LG 850 hdr tv, Linn LP12, Itok, Klyde, SkyQ, Panasonic BD, Toshiba HD-DVD.
Broken! G68D 598DP

System 2: 565, HD621, 519, 5000, 5000c, Mission 770, Quad 405x2, xBox1, SkyHD, Apple TV. JVC HD950.
Panasonic BD.
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#276935 - 2018-06-10 12:25 Re: Meridian 271 and 251 [Re: Linnasak]
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Thanks for the response.

How is it with music? I usually listen in Trifield and losing that is my biggest concern. Then again I would lose it if I went to MQA with a 218.

Do you think that you would miss the G68 at all? Tempted to place an order for an AV7704 with its XLR outputs and Auro-3d as standard.

Many thanks,

Anthony.


Sources: MS600, Oppo UHD-203, HTPC, Roon
Processors: G61RSL, HD621, Lumagen 4240
Outputs: DSP5200SE FL/C/FR, DSP5200VC C, DSP3200 SL/SR/RL/RR, DSWx2, Epson TW-9300.
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#276941 - 2018-06-10 14:09 Re: Meridian 271 and 251 [Re: Anthony-Howard]
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Music still not sure as like you used Trifield on G68.

Next weekend I'm going to try Tidal vis Explorer 1 and 565 and Reviver to SpeakerLink input on 271. Then compare to Explorer 1 going into optical of Marantz. Should show Marantz shortcomings, but only really testing stereo.

Now everyone seems to rave over MQA from 218, (Roon + Tidal), seems logical addition for music as then bypass the Japanese processor. One other option would be to route your Meridian processor’s analogue out to 271, then you could have Trifield via that. You can configure one input on 271 for balanced analogue and one for unbalanced.

Might also try sending digital LR via SpeakerLink and analogue for centre to 271 from 565 then I could try a Trifield, but a bit unusual as not sure if you can combine different channels on different inputs. In theory though it is software so maybe in future, as have spare inputs currently.

Suggest you talk to Rick at audio images on options with 271.

Kevin


Main system: 271, Marantz SR6011, 5500, 5500HC, 8x 33s, OPPO 203, Xbox one S, AppleTV4K, MAC mini, Sony vw760 , Stewart cabaret screen, LG 850 hdr tv, Linn LP12, Itok, Klyde, SkyQ, Panasonic BD, Toshiba HD-DVD.
Broken! G68D 598DP

System 2: 565, HD621, 519, 5000, 5000c, Mission 770, Quad 405x2, xBox1, SkyHD, Apple TV. JVC HD950.
Panasonic BD.
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#276946 - 2018-06-10 15:09 Re: Meridian 271 and 251 [Re: Linnasak]
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Once again thanks for your response. I am really keen to get the Marantz but still have a few reservations on the 271. I am slightly disappointed that it doesn't seem to have AES67 inputs which seem to be the future so it isn't really forward thinking of Meridian at all. Unless I am wrong it pretty much rules out a Trinnov 16 should they enable the digital outs at some point.

Aside from that it seems unforgivable that Meridian haven't appeared to have thought about running one of their own processors in parallel with another vendors Atmos processor. Unless of course Meridian are trying to say that other vendors processors sound just as good as theirs for music and legacy codecs.

As with most things Meridian over the last several years they just seem to have good ideas but fail to deliver on an obvious use case or two. I can't imagine many being sold to people without existing Meridian processors.

The price is definitely right though so if I give Meridian the benefit of the doubt and assume that should AES67 gain traction there will be a similarly priced v2 to upgrade to then all I need is a leap of faith with regards to music playback.

Very tempted to just order the Marantz and the 271 based on price alone. Those DSP320s at 1k each seem perfectly priced and capable as height speakers. Almost seems rude not to buy 4 of them!!!

Many thanks,

Anthony.


Sources: MS600, Oppo UHD-203, HTPC, Roon
Processors: G61RSL, HD621, Lumagen 4240
Outputs: DSP5200SE FL/C/FR, DSP5200VC C, DSP3200 SL/SR/RL/RR, DSWx2, Epson TW-9300.
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#276948 - 2018-06-10 16:38 Re: Meridian 271 and 251 [Re: Anthony-Howard]
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Loc: Skye, Scotland
Hi

The RJ45 are for storm audio processors, are these the standard you are looking for ?

Also Rick thought he could get a G65 SpeakerLink to Trinnov digital to work, but not sure on that route. As now thinking will look at Arcam short term, wait for storm or Trinnov to release cheaper digital output products. Issue is how long will I wait! Also these processors start to feel like large venue solutions where you want c. 32 channels.

Tempted to try the Trinnov 16 though if there is upgrade path. The 565 seemed expensive in its day, but used it whilst waiting for 271 and surprised how good it sounds so if Trinnov gave 10 years service, then might be stretched to 16, but Trinnov 32 still feels too expensive and I am not looking at opening a cinema!

Yet!!
Kevin


Main system: 271, Marantz SR6011, 5500, 5500HC, 8x 33s, OPPO 203, Xbox one S, AppleTV4K, MAC mini, Sony vw760 , Stewart cabaret screen, LG 850 hdr tv, Linn LP12, Itok, Klyde, SkyQ, Panasonic BD, Toshiba HD-DVD.
Broken! G68D 598DP

System 2: 565, HD621, 519, 5000, 5000c, Mission 770, Quad 405x2, xBox1, SkyHD, Apple TV. JVC HD950.
Panasonic BD.
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