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#262924 - 2017-04-12 16:10 Re: How to Stream music with my system ? [Re: bxd]
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An AE offers nothing over an existing ATV, but the Yamaha at least affords a more than decent DAC for £149 (before discounts).


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#262925 - 2017-04-12 16:15 Re: How to Stream music with my system ? [Re: spinaltap]
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Why the need for the DAC when he has a G6x and 5200SE's?


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DSP5000 96/24, MC200, Prime & PSU, Focal Elear, Explorer 1 & 2, F80, 200/203 and various Sonos.
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#262927 - 2017-04-12 16:58 Re: How to Stream music with my system ? [Re: spinaltap]
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Hi,

As Ian suggests, you don't need a DAC (rewiews suggest that the Airport Express DAC is quite reasonable although it might not be too great with respect to jitter). The ATV resamples audio to 16bit/48KHz while the AE passes 16/44.1, which would be better for audio streamed off the NAS. It looks as if the Yamaha only has an analogue stereo output, which isn't much use into a G65.

Brian


Main: G65, MD600, MS600, 218, HD621, DSP5200SE, DSP5200HCSE, M6 & D1500.
System 2: G91A, MS200, DSP5000 (96/24v1), DSP3300.
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#262929 - 2017-04-12 17:08 Re: How to Stream music with my system ? [Re: bxd]
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MS200 is the cheapest option and if it doesn't get any MQA upgrade then soon enough they will be at giveaway prices as people upgrade.


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MC200 500GB, QNAP TVS 471i3. Roon into 2 MS200's. Explorer 2. Bluesound Pulse 2 and Mini. 596 v1.89.2, 518, G61R, M60.2 Rosewood, M33C, M33 Rears, M1500 Sub, Foxsat HD, Sony Blu Ray, Pioneer 5090, 2 Chromecast's for LRB videos.
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#262932 - 2017-04-12 17:19 Re: How to Stream music with my system ? [Re: Sapiens]
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Great answers that are definitely helping

I will wait for the 218 and see if I can get a good deal grin


G65, 598DP, HD621, DSP5200SE Front LR&C, cable TV
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#262937 - 2017-04-12 17:49 Re: How to Stream music with my system ? [Re: Sapiens]
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A wise decision indeed.
Hector


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DINING: MS600, AC200, DSP5200SLLR.
STUDY 504, SB Touch, 2x MD600, C15, 808.6, 5200SE, Mac & PC, Explorer v1, Prime+PS Grado GS1000i
HORIZONTAL: M80, MS200, Red Rose Spirit + Sonus Faber Toys
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#262938 - 2017-04-12 18:20 Re: How to Stream music with my system ? [Re: ChrisLayerUK]
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Hi,

A small problem in that the Synology NAS can't run as a Meridian core which the MS200 would require. Alternately Roon will involve a subscription or payment.

Brian


Main: G65, MD600, MS600, 218, HD621, DSP5200SE, DSP5200HCSE, M6 & D1500.
System 2: G91A, MS200, DSP5000 (96/24v1), DSP3300.
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#262939 - 2017-04-12 18:27 Re: How to Stream music with my system ? [Re: bxd]
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Get an MC200 and run Sooloos to see how you get on.

Warning though, once you start you will want to continue as access and discovery is so easy especially with Tidal.

Yes you have to pay, but Music and software isn't free. A lifetime Roon is a bargain in HiFi terms relative to SE speakers... but in the end, it's down to priorities.


No 18 in the Hall of fame smile I have simple tastes; I am content to settle for the best: GIK monster bass panels, rear wall.
MC200 500GB, QNAP TVS 471i3. Roon into 2 MS200's. Explorer 2. Bluesound Pulse 2 and Mini. 596 v1.89.2, 518, G61R, M60.2 Rosewood, M33C, M33 Rears, M1500 Sub, Foxsat HD, Sony Blu Ray, Pioneer 5090, 2 Chromecast's for LRB videos.
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#263712 - 2017-05-01 14:09 Re: How to Stream music with my system ? [Re: ChrisLayerUK]
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Hello All

I will go with the QNAP route and I am now deciding on which model to buy knowing that, to my understanding, people use the QNAP dedicated to store music, but some use to also store and run Roon. The following QNAP models :

- TVS 471
- TS 251+
- HS 251+

My idea is to download Sooloos on one of these 3 models and I will buy or a 218, MS200 or MS600 depending on feedbacks over the 218, to play music and radio.

A bit later, I might want to expand and use Roon, then I will buy a Nuc.

In this case, would the HS251+ enough? or shall I have the TS251 for better RAM?
If I go with the TS 471, would I still need a NUC? (you understand this is to optimize budget smile )

So, I am debating about the best option.
Thank you again for your support.



G65, 598DP, HD621, DSP5200SE Front LR&C, cable TV
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#263713 - 2017-05-01 15:34 Re: How to Stream music with my system ? [Re: Sapiens]
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Personally, I would discount the idea of the HS-251.

Optimally, I would opt for the TVS-471 if your budget allows. This gives options in running Roon satisfactorily, or Sooloos.

Then, just add either MS200/MS600, or 218.

You would then not need to buy a NUC.

A NUC would be the basis of a Roon system, plus Meridian end point. Here you would add a QNAP for music storage/backup.


My Mac can go all the way to XI - Mac user since 1988.
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#263725 - 2017-05-01 20:04 Re: How to Stream music with my system ? [Re: spinaltap]
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In fact I don't need 4 hard drives, because my understanding is that the QNAP should be dedicated to Sooloos and/or Roon only, then no picture, docs, storage ...

I was thinking that having a less powerfull QNAP but having a NUC to handle Sooloos and Roon would be better.


G65, 598DP, HD621, DSP5200SE Front LR&C, cable TV
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#263726 - 2017-05-01 20:25 Re: How to Stream music with my system ? [Re: Sapiens]
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A NUC won't run Sooloos Core.


Sooloos, Roon, G series (with LPS upgrade), 800 series (with LPS upgrade), HD621, AC200, Prime and PS, DSPs old and new.

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