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#258702 - 2017-02-02 10:20 Roon v1.3 is live
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See here

Who have no fear to try it out (major changes) ;-)) grin


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#258713 - 2017-02-02 15:14 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: RobertW]
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The DSP engine is awesome...


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Meridian gear: 568.2mm and DSP5000's acting as TV speakers.
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#258732 - 2017-02-02 17:16 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Rodney Gold]
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I am intrigued by the 5.1 multichannel support in the v1.3 release. I separated my HD stereo and multichannel recordings a while back, after the upgrade I added the directory. Now, I'd like to listen to them on my 861v6.

I own several RasPi3 , they offer USB and HDMI outputs.

two choices:
USB input - leftover ID2X card from my 818v2->818v3 upgrade, I can add it to the 861v6 but don't know if the card supports > 2.0 and 16bit inputs.

HD621 HDMI output from my RasPi3 . Easier, probably will try this later. I will let people know if it works "out of the box" with greater than 16bit support.


IHMO, Roon have now finally supported all of my desired file formats and "crossed the Rubicon". Congratulations to the team on all their hard work.


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#258735 - 2017-02-02 17:31 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Rodney Gold]
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Originally Posted By Rodney Gold
The DSP engine is awesome...
It leaves me in a quandary though:

Room correction implemented in Roon 1.3 is superb, but destroys MQA...


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#258737 - 2017-02-02 17:33 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: VirusKiller]
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Which gives you the most improvement? Both is not a good answer!

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#258740 - 2017-02-02 18:02 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Ratbert]
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Maybe Roon can enable users to select room correction unless it sees an mqa tag or smiliar id?


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#258749 - 2017-02-02 18:53 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: VinylNutter]
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The painful truth is that the top end sounds better with MQA decoded (in the 818), but the whopping bump around 50Hz in my room response (nothing to do with mains frequency) muddies the bass to the point that much of the benefit of MQA is lost.

Running with a very crude 1st pass effort at room correction, I can finally tell the difference between EBA on and off, but that MQA "sparkle" is somewhat lost.

Obviously, there will be a compromise possible when Roon implements (partial) MQA decoding, and I'm sure it will sound amazing.

However, that doesn't mask the fact that a £32,000 two-channel DSP system from Meridian doesn't buy you room correction. It's a major issue with Meridian stereo products, made all the worse by the constraints surrounding MQA which means that I *require* Meridian to implement room correction so I can get the best out of the SE loudspeakers. There isn't an alternative to achieve the best possible results.

[Yes I have tried throwing pillows and duvets around the room, but they make little difference at the frequencies involved - I need electronic RC]


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#258750 - 2017-02-02 19:12 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: VirusKiller]
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Well, that answers the first part of my two part question I posted on the Roon forum. I was hoping for some magic.

Ken


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#258757 - 2017-02-02 21:18 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Kswanson]
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Having compared the skim milk unfolded 24/96 version of MQA (no mqa DAC) Vs DIRAC..there is no competition...

I can live without MQA but not without DIRAC. Turning on an off room correction is an improvement an order of magnitude above turning mqa on or off..
Would be nice to have both tho.
Im not too concerned , there are about 25 MQA albums I like .. once it becomes ubiquitous .. maybe another story


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#258759 - 2017-02-02 21:40 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Rodney Gold]
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Originally Posted By Rodney Gold
Turning on an off room correction is an improvement an order of magnitude above turning mqa on or off..
RC is massive; however, I'll probably settle for semi-skimmed + RC. wink


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#258764 - 2017-02-03 07:21 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: VirusKiller]
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My SB Transporter doesn’t appear to like EQ turned on in Roon 1.3. I use the Transporter’s analogue outputs connected to an amp for headphone listening and tried boosting the bass frequencies using EQ. The sound seemed somewhat degraded and when I try and more the track position slider, it breaks down into what sounds like pink noise. Disable EQ and all fine again.


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#258765 - 2017-02-03 07:55 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: VirusKiller]
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Originally Posted By VirusKiller
Originally Posted By Rodney Gold
The DSP engine is awesome...
It leaves me in a quandary though:
Room correction implemented in Roon 1.3 is superb, but destroys MQA...

The statement that a RC destroy MQA...is that from Meridian headquarter or more a discussion but not proofed ?
Why should that happened, that all on digital domain ?

Iam speaking here basically not particular from the Roon EQ 1.3 sw .
Sorry, wont push that thread, but it just fit to my question.


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#258766 - 2017-02-03 08:16 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Cliff.]
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Cliff , you are getting digital clipping
Enable headroom management , use a -6db figure and try again


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#258767 - 2017-02-03 08:22 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: RobertW]
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Robert , anything that modifies the digital signal will "break" mqa.
The best you can get is to unfold the digital signal to 24/96 from from an unmolested 24/48 MQA file (low fat MQA) and then do the corrections after that .. but you wont get the full blown MQA

Roon at the moment does not have the software "unfolder" (like the Tidal ap has) but they are working on it
There is a radio box under settings that is ticked and says "enable Meridian streaming" , but I have no idea what it does and cant find documentation on it.


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#258769 - 2017-02-03 09:15 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Rodney Gold]
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Originally Posted By Rodney Gold
Cliff , you are getting digital clipping
Enable headroom management , use a -6db figure and try again


Thanks, it's on my list to try. I'll have a look later and see if the signal indicator is turning red


Main system - Sources (Kodi-HTPC, Vero 4k, FireTV, Sat) into Trinnov Altitude 32 (8-16) (+Roon), Trinnov Amplitude 8 amp & Vivid Audio (Giya G3, V1.5) and REL Stentor III speakers. Others: F80 + Raspberry Pi and other Pi systems.
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#258771 - 2017-02-03 10:33 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Cliff.]
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Is there an age limited on what Squeezeboxes are supported - I have what is probably a gen 2 squeezebox that has not been connected to anything in the last 7+ years.



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#258773 - 2017-02-03 10:54 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Ian]
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I don't ever remember LMS not being compatible with older models so I would be fairly optimistic.


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#258774 - 2017-02-03 10:59 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Ian]
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Originally Posted By Ian
Is there an age limited on what Squeezeboxes are supported - I have what is probably a gen 2 squeezebox that has not been connected to anything in the last 7+ years.


Ian

Have you tried asking on the Roon forum?

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#258776 - 2017-02-03 11:26 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Ratbert]
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Unless you have a transporter or a touch , you can only pass a 24.48 signal , not 24/96 (transporter) and 24/96 or 24/172 for the touch..the edo mod allows the USB port to pass the 24/196


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#258777 - 2017-02-03 11:37 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: VirusKiller]
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Originally Posted By VirusKiller
Originally Posted By Rodney Gold
Turning on an off room correction is an improvement an order of magnitude above turning mqa on or off..
RC is massive; however, I'll probably settle for semi-skimmed + RC. wink


VK

Pity your attempt at room treatment had no appreciable effect and the need for room correction is preventing enjoyment of MQA unbroken.

I don't think I need room correction as I have never identified a need for it, but I might be completely wrong.

The managements choice of carpets, rugs, furniture and soft furnishings c/w stud and plaster board construction seems to work here.

I note that Rodney Gold has a "treated room" but still benefits from room correction.

confused

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#258779 - 2017-02-03 11:47 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Hector]
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My 'room correction effectiveness' test track is London Grammar's 'Hey now'. If my ears don't hurt when the bass kicks in, the RC is working.


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#258781 - 2017-02-03 12:48 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Hector]
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Originally Posted By Hector


I note that Rodney Gold has a "treated room" but still benefits from room correction.



I suspect there is only so much bass that room treatment can tame laugh

@Ratbert - don't have a Roon forum login (albeit never tried) so thought it easier to ask here - especially as it is also partly a Squeezebox question as it predates LMS and not sure what SB firmware updates have taken place in last 8 or so years.



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#258783 - 2017-02-03 13:28 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Ian]
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Trying to update the firmware via LMS might be a good place to start


Main system - Sources (Kodi-HTPC, Vero 4k, FireTV, Sat) into Trinnov Altitude 32 (8-16) (+Roon), Trinnov Amplitude 8 amp & Vivid Audio (Giya G3, V1.5) and REL Stentor III speakers. Others: F80 + Raspberry Pi and other Pi systems.
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#258784 - 2017-02-03 13:39 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Cliff.]
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Apologies. Just thought it easier to ask than waste time installing some software that I am never going to use again.



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#258785 - 2017-02-03 13:54 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: RobertW]
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Originally Posted By RobertW
The statement that a RC destroy MQA
Robert, I just meant that room correction implies an altered digital stream which can no longer be MQA decoded (because it's no longer bit-perfect).


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#258786 - 2017-02-03 14:24 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Ian]
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I have a 6m x 8m dedicated room , double thickness ceiling with damping in the void , diffusers on the ceiling , 2x 1.2m x 600mm bass 4" thick flat panel traps each corner , wood laminate floor with acoustic underlay , persian rugs , all my walls are slotted and pierced acoustic paneling on 2" battens with 2" rockwool behind which does double duty as diffusers and absorbers

I replaced 2 windows and a sliding glass door with glass bricks, heavy wooden slatted blinds over those windows and used heavy duty acoustic double doors at the entrance

The room is amazingly quiet 18db noise floor and has the ideal blend of liveliness and absorption , if you speak in it , your voice is utterly natural.

Im fabricating 24 x 3ft x 16" and 20" diameter tube traps to replace the flat panel ones , similar to ASC tube traps
Triple the bass absorption area i now have and they work lower down the freq scale

Problem is that room nodes create huge swings at very low freqs , I have about a 12db peak at 22hz and at multiples of that and no physical treatment can cure that so I have to resort to DSP to do so .. I like DIRAC .. but a simple parametric works there too.

I did try using 4 SVS SB13 subs as destructive node busters .. it improved bass response all over the room nicely , but they somewhat impacted the bass tightness of my giya G1's ..so I dumped them ..

I have never met a room that does not respond well to at the very least some bass trapping and some early reflection absorption.

In the case of using the room as a shared room , like a normal lounge , DRC really comes into its own.


some pics....

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[img:center]https://scontent.fjnb7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v...amp;oe=591657A1[/img]


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Meridian gear: 568.2mm and DSP5000's acting as TV speakers.
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#258788 - 2017-02-03 14:36 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Rodney Gold]
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I really like the way you did your room. Excellent job.


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#258789 - 2017-02-03 14:37 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Rodney Gold]
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Superb room, Rodney. Your G1s make my G3s look tiny.


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#258792 - 2017-02-03 15:09 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Rodney Gold]
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Bravo. Enjoy it in good health!


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#258795 - 2017-02-03 15:12 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Rodney Gold]
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Originally Posted By Rodney Gold
I have a 6m x 8m dedicated room ,

In the case of using the room as a shared room , like a normal lounge , DRC really comes into its own


That is really clever if DRC makes everyone else in the room disappear cool

Could be a requirement here, but I am probably wrong.

Hector


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#258805 - 2017-02-03 15:57 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Cliff.]
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Thanks for the compliments .. total cost to do that room was around 7000 quid.. but most folk dont have to be as OCD as I and 1000-2000 quid can get you some really effective treatment.. a fraction of the price of a Meridian system

As to room treatment , its really the cheapest effective upgrade you can make , easy to DIY and you can make the stuff look good or semi hide it .. like make panels looking like artwork or using a tube trap as a pot plant stand smile
In essence most stuff sounds the same..if in an anechoic chamber ..its not really the gear you hear ..it's how it interacts with the room that you do ..

Cliff
The G3's are no slouches , all that really differs from G1/2 is the ultra low freq and a very small lessening of scale. My best audiophile pal has a set , driven by a Devialet 120 , treated room as well , and they sound amazing. I sometimes think his bass is better than mine...

I have decided to upgrade , I had a heart attack and open heart quad bypass surgery 5 months ago and realised YOLO .. got a big insurance payout

I get my G1 Spirits in metallic copper mid March , they are a little smaller than G1's ..I have a month or 2 when they will run next to the G1's..deal is if I like em , I pay the difference tween them and the G1's.. G1's taken as a trade in ..If I dont like them , I keep the G1's..should be an interesting shoot out.

Hector .. yeh it would be cool to make some people disappear with the flick of a switch.. would do wonders for my whiney mother in law ...

Here is a pic of my 24/96 6000's next to the g1's .. the 6000's fared really well in comparison...especially since they cost me "only" 2000 quid .. would have loved to hear the latest version of the 8000's next to the vivids .. or just hear them.. none in my locality...

[img]https://scontent.fjnb7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v...amp;oe=590B442F[/img]


Roon/Tidal, SBT, Trinnov ST2 , Twin Devialet D premiers, Vivid Audio Giya G1 Spirits, dedicated and treated room.
Meridian gear: 568.2mm and DSP5000's acting as TV speakers.
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#258807 - 2017-02-03 16:06 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Hector]
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ChrisLayerUK Offline
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ChrisLayerUK Offline
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Does the share link work here from Roon. Only way to find out is try.
http://i.imgur.com/G7vTKvd.png

A great Album.

Chris


No 18 in the Hall of fame smile I have simple tastes; I am content to settle for the best:
GIK monster bass panels, rear wall. QNAP TVS 471i3. Roon into DSP5200SE via 218 zone... (Thanks Russ) Explorer 2. Bluesound Pulse 2 and Mini. 596v1, 518, Foxsat HD, Sony BDP, Pioneer 5090, 2 Chromecast's for LRB videos.
My F80 is in repair...
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#258816 - 2017-02-03 17:07 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: ChrisLayerUK]
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Rodney Gold Offline
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Rodney Gold Offline
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I only get a picture... still had to search and load it up in ROON
Listening to 24/44.1 version (24/48?) right now. sounds great so far


Roon/Tidal, SBT, Trinnov ST2 , Twin Devialet D premiers, Vivid Audio Giya G1 Spirits, dedicated and treated room.
Meridian gear: 568.2mm and DSP5000's acting as TV speakers.
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#258817 - 2017-02-03 17:20 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Rodney Gold]
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ChrisLayerUK Offline
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Loc: Colchester, Essex, UK
I think that's all you get just now then. It is a great live album though. I am playing the MQA stream although not decoded. It sounds great here.


No 18 in the Hall of fame smile I have simple tastes; I am content to settle for the best:
GIK monster bass panels, rear wall. QNAP TVS 471i3. Roon into DSP5200SE via 218 zone... (Thanks Russ) Explorer 2. Bluesound Pulse 2 and Mini. 596v1, 518, Foxsat HD, Sony BDP, Pioneer 5090, 2 Chromecast's for LRB videos.
My F80 is in repair...
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#258819 - 2017-02-03 17:55 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Rodney Gold]
Registered: 2011-02-02
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Hector Offline
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Hector Offline
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Loc: Midlands, UK
Originally Posted By Rodney Gold
I only get a picture... still had to search and load it up in ROON
Listening to 24/44.1 version (24/48?) right now. sounds great so far
OK it is on Tidal (Masters) MQA. 44k and very good it is too.

A/B with MQA to CD version... This is one of those albums where you could easily prefer the CD version (system dependant of course). I found the MQA version brilliant as it is, but quite taxing at least 40 pence in the pound.

The non MQA version, especially the first two tracks is inexplicably easier to listen to, however this could be my mood.

Just my experience as nothing is easy in the MQA world especially relating to relatively new live recordings.

Hector


AV: Thorens TD160B, SME, ShureV15MK2, 500, 598, 861v4, DSP7200.1LR, DSP3300HC Samsung UE55, SkyHD.
DINING: MS600, AC200, DSP5200SLLR.
STUDY 504, SB Touch, 2x MD600, C15, 808.6, 5200SE, Mac & PC, Prime+PS Grado GS1000i
HORIZONTAL: M80, MS200, Red Rose Spirit + Sonus Faber Toys
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#258887 - 2017-02-05 11:56 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: MJT5282]
Registered: 2008-01-02
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JohnBoy1 Offline
Mostly harmless
JohnBoy1 Offline
Mostly harmless

Registered: 2008-01-02
Posts: 57
Loc: Lancashire, UK
Originally Posted By MJT5282
HD621 HDMI output from my RasPi3 . Easier, probably will try this later. I will let people know if it works "out of the box" with greater than 16bit support.
I'd be really interested to know how you get on with this approach, thinking of doing the same with my setup.


John
Main: G61R SL, HD621 DSP5200, DSP3300, DSP3200, Roon and MS200, Oppo BDP-103, Humax HDR
Second: M6 mono, MS200
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#259045 - 2017-02-07 19:06 Re: Roon v1.3 is live [Re: Rodney Gold]
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Not'arf Offline
Working on the ultimate question
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Registered: 2011-08-22
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Loc: Abruzzo, Italy
Great pictures Rodney & glad to hear you're in decent health again. Long may it continue.

Those Giyas look amazing; don't they do any bigger ones?! grin They make the 6000s look like something from the Stone Age!

We're about to embark on a house extension / re-jiggle & the cinema will then be in a dedicated room (what is currently the garage) so I'll be looking to slip in some decent room-treatment stuff (GIK I imagine) while we're at it. And a carpeted floor which is just not the done thing out in Italy!

Re a nice juicy insurance payout; a) Great news. b) 2 of our friends out here have had to move out of their homes this year after those 'quakes / snow avalanches you'll all have heard about on the news (we're about half an hour from the hotel where 29 died) & NEITHER lot had buildings insurance. eek eek Amazingly, the local 'councils' seem to be picking up the bills. In a village 5 miles from here (& uphill), the snow was up to the level of the first floor windows. eek eek

The more I read about RC, the more I'm interested in physical answers.


Audio: MC200, G61R SL, HD621, DSP5500, 5500HC, DSP3100. Subs: 2 x REL Gibraltar 2.
Video: JVC X70, Black Diamond Zero Edge screen 129"(2.35).

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