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#272479 - 2018-01-30 21:36 Re: Power Conditioning on DSP8000SEs [Re: ncpl]
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Just my 2 cents, I believe in building on a solid foundation.


861v4 w LPS, G98DH, 218 for endpoint and MQA
Mac Mini w Uptone JS-2 LPS for Roon Server, 2x 7200SE, 2x JBL4312 Subs
2x 20amp dedicated AC power lines. Shunyata Python Helix cable to Shunyata Hydra 6, Synergistic Blk fuses. Ice Age AC Cables Optically Isolated Ethernet
Audeze LCD-2, iFI-iDSD Micro HPhone amp
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#272481 - 2018-01-30 22:05 Re: Power Conditioning on DSP8000SEs [Re: David Jackson]
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Agreed. Curious about tweaking the power in the breaker box though? Again there’s the thing about noise in the cables becoming audible. No doubt there’s something to it but it would be nice to know how the science works there. Most of this becomes DC right?

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#272484 - 2018-01-30 23:39 Re: Power Conditioning on DSP8000SEs [Re: Ogri]
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Dedicated lines is where I started and it made a positive difference. Everything I addressed beyond that just cumulatively made things better, one step at a time. I understand the process not the science but there is no doubt to my ears that it works.


861v4 w LPS, G98DH, 218 for endpoint and MQA
Mac Mini w Uptone JS-2 LPS for Roon Server, 2x 7200SE, 2x JBL4312 Subs
2x 20amp dedicated AC power lines. Shunyata Python Helix cable to Shunyata Hydra 6, Synergistic Blk fuses. Ice Age AC Cables Optically Isolated Ethernet
Audeze LCD-2, iFI-iDSD Micro HPhone amp
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#272502 - 2018-01-31 16:56 Re: Power Conditioning on DSP8000SEs [Re: David Jackson]
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We had a new power substation put in recently, I got slightly excited about what it might do for my setup. Difficult to manage an AB on that one wink. Didn’t have a noticeable impact. My house was wired by people who faked the circuit test results though, even managed to cock up the phone line, so I’m guessing I’ve bigger problems...

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#272503 - 2018-01-31 17:39 Re: Power Conditioning on DSP8000SEs [Re: Ogri]
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OGRI,
I found the PS Audio Regenerator to be a very solid player in the quest for noise reduction. It will "clean", monitor and report the condition of your AC. The Regenerators are NOT passive devices like Shunyatas. But I have found that they do NOT color the sound when they are installed.
There is a significant explanation of the science of noise reduction on the PS Audio WebSite. Its worth a read if you are curious. You can also read reports and ask questions on their AC forum. It is a great place for knowledge and although I have not seen PS Audio discussed much on this site, they manufacture great products. I find their upgradable DACs absolutely stunning sounding and their recent upgrade supports MQA.


861v4 w LPS, G98DH, 218 for endpoint and MQA
Mac Mini w Uptone JS-2 LPS for Roon Server, 2x 7200SE, 2x JBL4312 Subs
2x 20amp dedicated AC power lines. Shunyata Python Helix cable to Shunyata Hydra 6, Synergistic Blk fuses. Ice Age AC Cables Optically Isolated Ethernet
Audeze LCD-2, iFI-iDSD Micro HPhone amp
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#272505 - 2018-01-31 18:05 Re: Power Conditioning on DSP8000SEs [Re: David Jackson]
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I think one should always clarify - when discussing power supplies - if they have a purely DSP setup or some analogue components.


Jerome
Music: MC200 -> MS600 -> G68D -> DSP8.2k + DSP5200HC front / DSP33 Rears
Movies: NAS -> Oppo BDP-93 -> HD621 -> G68D -> DSP8.2k + DSP5200HC front / DSP33 Rears
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#272506 - 2018-01-31 18:42 Re: Power Conditioning on DSP8000SEs [Re: Jeje]
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I am not quite sure what you are saying Jeje.


861v4 w LPS, G98DH, 218 for endpoint and MQA
Mac Mini w Uptone JS-2 LPS for Roon Server, 2x 7200SE, 2x JBL4312 Subs
2x 20amp dedicated AC power lines. Shunyata Python Helix cable to Shunyata Hydra 6, Synergistic Blk fuses. Ice Age AC Cables Optically Isolated Ethernet
Audeze LCD-2, iFI-iDSD Micro HPhone amp
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#272507 - 2018-01-31 18:50 Re: Power Conditioning on DSP8000SEs [Re: David Jackson]
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Fair enough smile all I was trying to say is: when someone reports audible improvement using a power conditioner, do they have DSP speakers or analogue?


Jerome
Music: MC200 -> MS600 -> G68D -> DSP8.2k + DSP5200HC front / DSP33 Rears
Movies: NAS -> Oppo BDP-93 -> HD621 -> G68D -> DSP8.2k + DSP5200HC front / DSP33 Rears
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#272508 - 2018-01-31 19:05 Re: Power Conditioning on DSP8000SEs [Re: Jeje]
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I understand, I have used Regenerators and Shunyata products on DSP and Analog setups with very positive results (my signature describes my 2 channel system). I do not have experience with tube systems.


861v4 w LPS, G98DH, 218 for endpoint and MQA
Mac Mini w Uptone JS-2 LPS for Roon Server, 2x 7200SE, 2x JBL4312 Subs
2x 20amp dedicated AC power lines. Shunyata Python Helix cable to Shunyata Hydra 6, Synergistic Blk fuses. Ice Age AC Cables Optically Isolated Ethernet
Audeze LCD-2, iFI-iDSD Micro HPhone amp
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#272522 - 2018-02-01 01:34 Re: Power Conditioning on DSP8000SEs [Re: David Jackson]
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I will have the Shunyata products on demo at my place for the next 30 days or so if anyone would like to come by and see/ hear for themselves on my 8kSEs.


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Personal System #1 Theta Digital Cassablanca 4, 218, DSP8000.2SE, DSP7200SEHC, Revel F228be, Revel B112, Monitor Audio Silver 10, ATI 200WX5 Amp, JVC RS15, Shunyata Denali 600S, Black Diamond Zero Edge screen. QNAP TS-251 3TB
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#272524 - 2018-02-01 05:18 Re: Power Conditioning on DSP8000SEs [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Bruce,

Perhaps you could share your opinion and include a poll of all those who come to give it a listen. I’d love to, but I am moving and must disassemble all of my kit and reassemble in the new rental house.

John


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3: G91A, 3100, Sony PS-FL5 turntable
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#272525 - 2018-02-01 06:55 Re: Power Conditioning on DSP8000SEs [Re: JohnSWimer]
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Perhaps Bruce could tell us about the science?

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