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#244801 - 2016-01-05 17:13 Re: Re: MQA status? [Re: Soundserge]
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Originally Posted By Soundserge
What is holding back the labels from announcing? If experience is any guide — lawyers. smile Soundserge

I don't see this as sinister at all - it's much more likely as Bob says. Corporates in my experience hate other corporates jumping the gun on announcements, stealing limelight and thunder etc. This bandwagon is rolling and nothing is going to stop it. Fantastic achievement by the boys in Huntingdon.


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#244802 - 2016-01-05 17:34 Re: Re: MQA status? [Re: VirusKiller]
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Originally Posted By VirusKiller
The Auralic also has a USB output; however, I find it unlikely that anything other than vanilla PCM will be output, which means no ADC compensation in the DAC.
But that vanilla PCM is still going to be high res PCM at the underlying sample rate prior to MQA decoding? And therefore should still sound pretty good with all the benefits of de-blurring present?

Presumably the norm on third party machines will be that the DAC management process (the final icing on the cake) is not implemented? (eg smartphones, cheap DACs, etc)


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#244804 - 2016-01-05 17:38 Re: Re: MQA status? [Re: Altus]
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Originally Posted By Altus
I don't see this as sinister at all - it's much more likely as Bob says. Corporates in my experience hate other corporates jumping the gun on announcements, stealing limelight and thunder etc. This bandwagon is rolling and nothing is going to stop it. Fantastic achievement by the boys in Huntingdon.
My attempt at humor wasn't trying to imply anything sinister is afoot. I think it's exactly as you say. Big corporations are involved here, much bigger than MQA Ltd or Meridian. And I expect lots of i's are being dotted and t's are being crossed and that legal professionals are involved.


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#244809 - 2016-01-05 20:33 Re: Re: MQA status? [Re: Soundserge]
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Originally Posted By Bob
The major labels are close. Let's see what happens by the end of CES.
Could Bob have painted a thinner veil on that?

Originally Posted By Bob
As far as hardware [goes], by Easter, we think there will be over 100 products on the market that can encode and decode MQA.
That's impressive. The announcement of the HTC MQA-enabled smartphone is probably the most significant to date, even though it's a proof-of-concept.

Stereophile link


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Edited by VirusKiller; 2016-01-05 20:38. Edit Reason: Added bit about the HTC phone
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#244816 - 2016-01-06 00:22 Re: Re: MQA status? [Re: AudioImages - Rick]
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No product info in this one but an amazing interview with R. Stuart at TAS.
TAS interview with R. Stuart


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#244817 - 2016-01-06 00:43 Re: Re: MQA status? [Re: JimK]
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Thanks for posting, it aids / reinforces my understanding of MQA and I was privileged to have it presented by Bob himself over a year go now.

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#244821 - 2016-01-06 07:35 Re: Re: MQA status? [Re: JimK]
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Originally Posted By JimK
No product info in this one but an amazing interview with R. Stuart at TAS.
TAS interview with R. Stuart
Good piece, but I had a major sense of deja vu reading it. I'm sure I've read the same text before.

Edit: It's the same piece from the (excellent) TAS May/June 2015 issue.


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Edited by VirusKiller; 2016-01-06 07:53.
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#244823 - 2016-01-06 08:06 Re: Re: MQA status? [Re: Carl]
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That's a great article and a compulsory read if you have any interest in audio recording and enjoyment at all.
It makes all the scepticle posts regarding MQA I have recently read over on the Roon forums seem more laughable now than they were then.
This explains the addiction to Live Music I witness in people who own no Hi Fi at all.
Interesting times, Chris 😎


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#244825 - 2016-01-06 08:22 Re: Re: MQA status? [Re: VirusKiller]
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Deja lu, actually, not Deja vu.

I thought his last comment about incurring the wrath of audiophiles and scientists was very funny. I suspect I know which is worse.

I do hope M remember to announce their own MQA launches at CES, I'm getting bored by the waiting.


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#244827 - 2016-01-06 09:01 Re: Re: MQA status? [Re: dpstjp]
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Interestingly, in the "MQA thread" on the Roon forum, in spite of some initial scepticism and hostility, the tide appears to be turning; and that's a community with a load of audiophiles, many of whom are not in the Meridian "camp" (but with Roon in common).


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#244830 - 2016-01-06 09:28 Re: Re: MQA status? [Re: VirusKiller]
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Some of the comments at the bottom of the Stereophile link (see above) are pretty vicious, going as far as to claim that the "different" sound will be down to MQA introducing its own distortions.


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#244834 - 2016-01-06 11:45 Re: Re: MQA status? [Re: Gianni]
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Indeed. There are always trolls, those who want something to fail, those who simply cannot believe that their own world view is wrong. Thank goodness that both this forum and the Roon forum are well moderated, generally respectful, environments.


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