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#243874 - 2015-12-12 14:11 Advice on upgrade/toddler-proofing
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Advice sought from people who have already been through this.

I am currently using stand-mounted DSP33's and my 10-month old will soon be on the move. My thoughts of of retiring the DSP33's and getting a pair of smiley-face DSP5000 (or possibly 5200s).

How stable are these floor stander, are the transformers near the base? Any thoughts from people who have gone through the same adjustments would be much appreciated.

Tim


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#243875 - 2015-12-12 14:32 Re: Advice on upgrade/toddler-proofing [Re: Tim]
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Tim,

DSP5000s are very stable under 'normal' circumstances and they do have the transformers near the base. In my case I have M60s which are pretty much identical in terms of physical structure / weight balance etc.

So, fine for very young toddlers, however, not fine for more mobile large toddlers / young children… No damage to my children, however, I do have a couple of dents in the sides of the M60s suffered from when a M60 was knocked over having been run into by one or more of the children going at full pace.

The other feature of the M60s and I believe also the DSP5000s, is that they have a large base port at the rear. You will be amazed at what can and does get deposited into the speaker cabinet: toy cars, balls of all descriptions, plastic figures, ice-cream sticks, spoons - I could go on but will stop there.

Hope this helps…

John


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#243880 - 2015-12-12 22:44 Re: Advice on upgrade/toddler-proofing [Re: Tim]
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Hi Tim

Unless you have the luxury of setting up a Daddy room, I'd say get everything up off floor level. Wall mount the '33s and get the kit above prying finger level too, and accept that it's going to be that way for the next five or six years!

But there's so much fun (and fatigue!) coming your way that you'll not have time for hifi!

Cheers

George

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#243881 - 2015-12-12 22:58 Re: Advice on upgrade/toddler-proofing [Re: JCD]
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Tim

Congratulations on the 10 month old!

In my experience I would say it's not just the speaker that is the issue.

1) I wouldn't recommend putting your speakers on a plinth
2) Spikes are less stable than feet
3) 5200s are more stable than 5000s due to their shape.

I have M60s and 5200s if you want to pop over and push them about!

Cheers
Tom


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#243884 - 2015-12-13 04:05 Re: Advice on upgrade/toddler-proofing [Re: GMT]
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I discovered that (in my case, friends') children were prone to sticking their fingers into the cones! Keep well out of sight/touch...


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#243885 - 2015-12-13 06:46 Re: Advice on upgrade/toddler-proofing [Re: Jeremy A-H]
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I would get some metallic blue DSP8k's.

The colour and Dalek look will put the kids off, the cones are hidden around the sides, they are too heavy to push over and too tall for adults (and kids) to use as drinks stands.


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#243886 - 2015-12-13 07:41 Re: Advice on upgrade/toddler-proofing [Re: Ian]
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#243887 - 2015-12-13 08:20 Re: Advice on upgrade/toddler-proofing [Re: Tim]
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It depends on the child, some children will cause more damage than others. I was lucky, the only problem I had was a small car inserted into the port of a cheap sub I had a few years ago which didn't do any damage.

How about some 18bit 5000's, if they are damaged you won't lose too much money.


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#243889 - 2015-12-13 10:38 Re: Advice on upgrade/toddler-proofing [Re: JohnnyM]
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Always the cones. Some M speakers have metal mesh over the tweeter drivers which take a lot more punishment than cloth, but cloth at least keeps them out of sight.

Agree on rigidity. If the toddler did pull a DSP over it would not be great as the speakers are heavy. Having said that I struggle to shift my 6ks.


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#243892 - 2015-12-13 11:29 Re: Advice on upgrade/toddler-proofing [Re: dpstjp]
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Thanks for all the responses, not sure which way to go. Wise words from yourself George!


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#243893 - 2015-12-13 11:31 Re: Advice on upgrade/toddler-proofing [Re: GMT]
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Originally Posted By GMT
I have M60s and 5200s if you want to pop over and push them about!
Yes, it would be good to catch up!


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#243896 - 2015-12-13 13:12 Re: Advice on upgrade/toddler-proofing [Re: Tim]
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Whenever you want Tim. PM we you have a mo!

Cheers
Tom


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