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#241655 - 2015-10-18 17:37 Syncing added albums between Roon and Sooloos
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Is there a good way to keep both Roon and Sooloos synced?

In the short term does a Tidal album added in Roon become available/synced to Sooloos?

I know that adding a Tidal album in Sooloos are synced (from Tidal) into Roon so that direction works.

Longer term, I would like to keep them the same for local as well music. Right now I do not exactly know what albums I am missing in Roon.


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#241692 - 2015-10-19 10:25 Re: Syncing added albums between Roon and Sooloos [Re: Crion]
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You have to be rigorous, I'm afraid.

I run a Sooloos library and a separate Roon library.

I initially started my Roon library as a native export from Sooloos. I then had to use Sooloos interrogator to map between what I had in Sooloos and Roon (which has a built in database information tool).

This involved using Excel to identify differences.

After that you just need to be diligent, and every item you import to Sooloos you also add to your Roon folder. I've not been quite so diligent as I anticipate turning Sooloos off once I have my head round firmware updating and knowing which control I'm going to use.


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#241696 - 2015-10-19 13:49 Re: Syncing added albums between Roon and Sooloos [Re: dpstjp]
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As when I imported to Sooloos I always ripped externally (in XLD) I have a folder stuffed with all the original rips. Pointing Roon at this is effectively the same for me as pointing it at Sooloos, as the contents of that folder is identical with the contents of Sooloos.


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#241697 - 2015-10-19 16:40 Re: Syncing added albums between Roon and Sooloos [Re: Ludwig]
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Allow me to be pedantic for a moment...

When you import albums into either system you are not actually guaranteed that they are in-sync from content p.o.v

e.g. Sooloos does not handle multi-CD sets very well at all. If you drop a mega folder into import and don't watch closely you may see CD2 replace CD1 on the importing list.

e.g. If you import a 2CD set with say 14 tracks on CD1 and 17 tracks on CD2 and that is tagged EXACTLY as Sooloos would export it

1-01, 1-02......1-14
2-01, 2-02.....2-17 etc

then a really weird thing happens whereby tracks 15, 16 & 17 from the end of CD2 will get appended to CD1....even though they are perfectly tagged.

I only found this when so many 2CD albums didn't not ID in Roon.

e.g. Roon may mis-ID an album so it becomes something it isn't.

e.g. Roon may ignore an album altogether under certain circumstances (file types, corrupt data etc)

Either way, although Ludwig is in principal correct, the actual result may vary.

It pays to audit either/both systems you use.

Use the Sooloos tools we built a few years back to get XL lists from your Sooloos library.

Use Roon library export to do the same (the Sooloos tools were a starting point for the Roon XL export development during alpha btw).

Don't expect or assume the systems will or can do the checking for you. You get to love XL eek


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