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#233378 - 2015-04-12 01:51 Re: Importing Sooloos into Roon [Re: dpstjp]
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Originally Posted By: dpstjp
I don't think a Sooloos backup would work for Roon, since the files seem to be a proprietary format (i.e. not .flac).
Actually the music files themselves are FLAC, WAV, MP3 etc.

Have a look in:
http://<CoreIP:9080/Sooloos/music2/album/00/xx/...

However, Sooloos does not maintain its metadata in the FLAC, so the files only have the metadata they had when they were ripped.

If this was by Sooloos there'll be next to none, hence this notion that an export may be required to use them with with Roon.

However, if ripped by say dBpoweramp then I suspect Roon would be fine to identify them as is (of course any Sooloos metadata is still ignored).

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#233379 - 2015-04-12 02:17 Re: Importing Sooloos into Roon [Re: Roving Gecko]
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[removed until i find reference to this info]

On subject of grooming, with many Sooloos (and other music library users) putting much effort in grooming metadata to their liking, it sounds like Roon will ignore most of this and potentially inflict its view of the world without a user possibly wanting that view presented in the Roon way unless the user goes through another round of metadata grooming.


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Edited by Ian; 2015-04-12 13:40. Edit Reason: Makes no sense without link
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#233380 - 2015-04-12 02:47 Re: Importing Sooloos into Roon [Re: Carl]
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Originally Posted By: Carl
Originally Posted By: dpstjp
I don't think a Sooloos backup would work for Roon, since the files seem to be a proprietary format (i.e. not .flac).
Actually the music files themselves are FLAC, WAV, MP3 etc.

Have a look in:
http://<CoreIP:9080/Sooloos/music2/album/00/xx/...
Carl,

I'm well aware of what the files look like in the Sooloos system, thank you. Have a look at the backup of a Sooloos library. All music files end with ".backupdata" which I suspect Roon might struggle with.


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#233383 - 2015-04-12 02:55 Re: Importing Sooloos into Roon [Re: dpstjp]
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Sorry my bad, I'm missed that you were discussing a backup set, my focus was on being able to use (or not) the library itself.


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#233385 - 2015-04-12 03:06 Re: Importing Sooloos into Roon [Re: dpstjp]
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Just for the record, Sonos and a few other Music Apps recognize and play the .Backupdata files created by a Sooloos backup

The file names & extensions are changed.... But they are not transcoded or changed in any way.... and the ID3 Tags are still populated by Metadata from the original rip

Not that I'm recommending this as a solution.... I still think a full export from Sooloos is the way to go... As this will create the typical Artist / Album / Track structure that is much more user friendly for future use


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Edited by Ronnie; 2015-04-12 04:16.
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#233387 - 2015-04-12 04:06 Re: Importing Sooloos into Roon [Re: Ronnie]
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I suspected they weren't transcoded, thanks for confirming Ronnie.

Can you imagine how long a backup would take if if wasn't just a straight rename?

Sadly I fear a full export is going to cause a greater divergence (track level versus album level metadata not withstanding) of metadata than one might wish. I think we're all going to have to make a choice about which way to jump. Two sets of grooming is one too many.


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#233388 - 2015-04-12 04:07 Re: Importing Sooloos into Roon [Re: Ronnie]
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Ronnie

Agreed, export currently in progress.

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#233389 - 2015-04-12 04:14 Re: Importing Sooloos into Roon [Re: Ratbert]
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+1 for streaming then! From the perspective of a very nearly Sooloos customer.


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#233442 - 2015-04-13 01:54 Re: Importing Sooloos into Roon [Re: Hectorson]
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Originally Posted By: Hectorson
+1 for streaming then! From the perspective of a very nearly Sooloos customer.
Haha, exactly what I was thinking.

I just can't be bothered to rip CDs.


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#237938 - 2015-07-21 08:25 Re: Importing Sooloos into Roon [Re: Ian]
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Hi Ian

Thanks for this useful comparative I was looking at it in another thread. Though this is true, I guess it is only a worry for us Sooloos owners, and anyone starting afresh now would just convert the collection to a generic NAS and out Roon on top of that out to the M DSPs ? In that case, the amount of storage required drops significantly. Do you see any other drawback ?

Thanks and Best /bt


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