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#234866 - 2015-05-12 15:23 Re: How Much Will Roon Cost? [Re: dpstjp]
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Originally Posted By dpstjp
Really wish that Sooloos export just stuck a folder.jpg in the same directory rather than embedding the artwork in the files themselves. I'm hoping that MediaMonkey or the like will be able to process these out.
dBpoweramp can do this very easily in batch mode.

Another useful progam would be one that can take the Sooloos folder system and turn it back into a conventional system. The Roon guys must know how to do this - save an awful lot of effort going through the Export process.

Would also be good if new Sooloos could work natively on a conventional folder structure too.


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#234867 - 2015-05-12 15:26 Re: How Much Will Roon Cost? [Re: Altus]
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Originally Posted By AltusLiceor
Would also be good if new Sooloos could work natively on a conventional folder structure too.
Indeed... that would probably need a complete re-write of the core software though. Oh... hang on a mo.... = Roon.


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#234869 - 2015-05-12 15:32 Re: How Much Will Roon Cost? [Re: ncpl]
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Quite. M should get rid of those idiots who thought it was a good idea to create such a stupid structure in the first place. Oh...hang on a mo.... - Roon!


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#234906 - 2015-05-12 21:18 Re: How Much Will Roon Cost? [Re: dpstjp]
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The 'stupid' folder structure was a memory and performance decision made in 2005 smile

The machines have all gotten much faster and memory much less of a concern in the last 10 years smile


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#236621 - 2015-06-14 11:44 Re: How Much Will Roon Cost? [Re: Ratbert]
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How much will Roon cost?

Well $499 (less an early adopter discount wink ) actually seems a bargain to me.
The usability even at v1.0 just completely won me over.
The responsiveness of the Roon guys on their forum is a much needed breath of fresh air.

Installed in a cinch, got control from my desktop in my study, the missus and the kids love it instantly.
No more praying to the beautiful if somewhat frustrating C15.

Probably comes over as a bit of a marketing pitch, sorry ... just a bit of enthusiasm grin

The biggest thing to work out now is MQA/which Merdian endpoint.

Come on M help us all out here with which products will do/get what, even if the timescales are estimated, so we can plan forward for the future.


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Edited by Ludwig; 2015-06-14 19:42. Edit Reason: Price corrected with OP's approval
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#236631 - 2015-06-14 13:30 Re: How Much Will Roon Cost? [Re: Gruffle]
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Just for the sake of accuracy, and not to turn anyone off, the prices for Room are

Lifetime Subscription.....£325.... $499

Annual Subscription...... £78......$119


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Edited by Ronnie; 2015-06-14 13:32.
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#236654 - 2015-06-14 15:33 Re: How Much Will Roon Cost? [Re: Ronnie]
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Oops - duly corrected thanks Ronnie, got my $$$ mixed up with GBPs.


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#236658 - 2015-06-14 16:04 Re: How Much Will Roon Cost? [Re: Gruffle]
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Does the lifetime subscription include all future updates or is it open ended and future enhancements cost extra? I.e. could promised extras like MQA or DSD end up costing?


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#236663 - 2015-06-14 16:27 Re: How Much Will Roon Cost? [Re: Ian]
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#236668 - 2015-06-14 17:10 Re: How Much Will Roon Cost? [Re: Ratbert]
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The lifetime subscription to me is a bet that the company will still be around and the best solution in 4-5 years.


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#236671 - 2015-06-14 17:20 Re: How Much Will Roon Cost? [Re: Jaapaap]
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It's a much cheaper bet than many of us made with Sooloos and with much fewer conditions and constraints too.

Meridian is still around but it certainly isn't the best. Your timeframe seems about right though.

Cheers

Tony.


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#236676 - 2015-06-14 17:29 Re: How Much Will Roon Cost? [Re: Ian]
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Originally Posted By Ian
Does the lifetime subscription include all future updates or is it open ended and future enhancements cost extra? I.e. could promised extras like MQA or DSD end up costing?
The accurate answer to that is beyond "lifetime data service" I don't know!

I suppose it is something of an excercise of faith as with any "lifetime" membership. All they have to do is come out with a new product and obsolete the current Roon software and lifetime means nothing. At the end of the day you have to trust the supplier, equally the supplier is at some risk if it p***es off its loyal followers.

What I do know is that just about every room in my house is now playing different music (arrgh!) and it is an instant hit with the family who were completely into it within seconds in a way that Sooloos/Control:PC never did. The metadata is miles better and stuff like bio's and lyrics is just candy on top.

I think these Roon guys are really onto something and a bit like a Kickstarter I am happy to donate to the cause. Time will tell if it is a wise investment.

Inversely I think it can really help Meridian (even if there are short term frustrations). I am not convinced they ever got hold of the furiously rapid cycles of software development and increasingly Sooloos (software) seemed to be in the doldrums, the only recent flicker of light was the inclusion of NAS.

Freeing them of this pressure will allow them to focus on what they are truly good at, excellent audio hardware and really revolutionary audio reasearch leading to products such as MQA which I view as a stunning achievement for which imho a Sir Bob is in order in due course. John Buchanan already seems to be signalling a shift in style at Meridian and I wish him and all at M well. For sure I will remain an M customer in the future.


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