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#222805 - 2014-10-22 22:50 596, 598 DSL-720 drives from China
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Ed Phipps Offline
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Hi,

If you've got a 598 or 596 it's probably got an ageing DVS DVL-720 DVD ROM drive in it.

My 596 did and it died very soon after I bought it (sob). I tried replacing the laser but that didn't work. I tried replacing the drive with another DVD ROM drive from a PC and that was fairly successful but not great.

These are old drives, but I found a supplier for new DSL-720 drives in China prepared to ship small quantities to the UK, through Alibaba. They'll send me one for $41 plus $45 shipping - around 55. I'm tempted to buy two to get the price down a bit - if anyone else interested, PM me.

I can't guarantee anything other than I'd be acting in good faith, sharing the costs, and that replacing the drive is fairly easy - just two connectors and lots of screws...

Perhaps I'm mad. Quite my sick 596 makes me sad!

-Edd


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#222887 - 2014-10-24 09:36 Re: 596, 598 DSL-720 drives from China [Re: Ed Phipps]
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I have a TNT account with a good rate in China.
If there's anything I can be of assistance, let me know.


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#222968 - 2014-10-25 05:47 Re: 596, 598 DSL-720 drives from China [Re: Albert]
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Thanks for the offer, Albert. I'll probably try to keep it simple, by letting the seller arrange shipping.


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#222995 - 2014-10-25 23:52 Re: 596, 598 DSL-720 drives from China [Re: Ed Phipps]
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Guys,

Albert has advised caution:
Originally Posted By: Albert
Are you sure these drivers would work? IIRC these is a specific FW need to be installed in it.
Sensible man, that Albert.

Best case: the firmware just has to be of a certain date or later. Worst case: it has to a specific Meridian version. From a 2006 thread on here:
Originally Posted By: Best DVD-ROM drive replacement for 598?
The other thing you want to check is a firmware (it will be printed on the Drive/Loader). The one I bought on e-bay (the link above) is L008 firmware, from October 2000 so it did not require a firmware flush from Meridian. The Meridian "motherboard" recognized it instantaneously and it plays like a charm. I think Meridian write their own firmware.
Unless anybody can share a good reason for blind optimism, in view of the uncertainties my current plan is to buy a unit or two to test before ordering for everybody else.

I'll post prices next, which are getting better!


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#223001 - 2014-10-26 00:29 Re: 596, 598 DSL-720 drives from China [Re: Ed Phipps]
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I've had an encouraging reply from China about shipping costs:
Quote:
Dear customer

Hope you will have a wonderful day. About the DSL-720:

shipping charge 41USD for 1pcs
shipping charge 50USD for 2pcs
shipping charge 75USD for 7pcs

And the lead time only 5-6 days.

Yes, you need to pay the TAX, but if I mention only 50USD for the customs invoice then you will pay a little TAX fee.

Candy


On a $50 invoice we might pay 20% VAT - or customs might not bother (as below their 9 minimum).

So if we buy 7 drives, the cost could be as low as $52 (33) each delivered to me, plus forwarding within the UK (5-10)

The single unit cost is $86 (around 53) but that's direct to your address in the UK, so maybe ordering individually is not so bad?

THE PLAN
So... as mentioned in my previous post, my plan is to buy ONE drive (or maybe two) to check out first, rather than risk buying seven only to find they're incompatible. I will let you know in a week or so!

If anyone is in a hurry, just let me know and we can share a "risky" order. Or you can buy direct from Shenzhen E-Best Industrial Co., Ltd..


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#223003 - 2014-10-26 00:33 Re: 596, 598 DSL-720 drives from China [Re: Ed Phipps]
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Do these drives need flashing with Meridian firmware?


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#223007 - 2014-10-26 00:48 Re: 596, 598 DSL-720 drives from China [Re: VirusKiller]
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Hi VK

Yes, that's a good question to which I do not have a good answer. Hence the cautious purchase.

From reading past posts, it might be necessary to get 100% functionality. But whether that missing functionality is important - no idea.

I've never flashed any Meridian hardware but firmware seems to be available for both the 596 and 598 - or at least I can find docs. I'm exploring now.

RS232 ports... ah. Where did I put my soldering iron?


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Edited by Ed Phipps; 2014-10-26 00:55.
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#223025 - 2014-10-26 14:09 Re: 596, 598 DSL-720 drives from China [Re: VirusKiller]
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Originally Posted By: VirusKiller
Do these drives need flashing with Meridian firmware?
Maybe Chris from the repair shop could shed some light on this, I know he has a few ROM drives left...
My thoughts Jonathan


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#223069 - 2014-10-27 05:51 Re: 596, 598 DSL-720 drives from China [Re: Jon Raines]
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Good idea. I've asked Chris for advice.


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#223323 - 2014-11-02 05:47 Re: 596, 598 DSL-720 drives from China [Re: Ed Phipps]
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Update: I ordered a single drive mid-week, should arrive in a few days (DHL). Supplier kept changing the prices - mainly in an upwards direction. Annoying, but still worth it - if it works.

Will post an update as soon as I've received the drive and tried it out.

Just realised I've got an MSR remote, not an MSR4 - so no MENU/SETUP button, just hope I don't need the setup menu!


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#223636 - 2014-11-08 20:21 Re: 596, 598 DSL-720 drives from China [Re: Ed Phipps]
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Update: Initial experience

The drive arrived midweek but I'm not yet sure what to say about my experience. I bought it from http://www.e-best.en.alibaba.com/ from Candy, who was very helpful but the language barrier is significant.

Good points:
  • I've received my drive and it's exactly as described
  • t works fine as a CD drive with full functionality (track numbers and time display correctly) and sounds great
  • I could pay with PayPal
Bad points:
  • The drive was manufactured in 2002 so is "new old stock". A bit dusty and maybe less than reliable as...
  • I can't get DVDs to play at all (no disc)
  • The price kept going up (quoted the wrong price, charged for using PayPal, customs charges)
  • The buying process was rather drawn out
I'm still investigating but a bit depressed. I'm going to try tinkering with the firmware and Meridian Configuration Manager, and swapping with other DVD ROM drives to see if any support DVD, however badly. I will report all my findings in a day or two - and leave you (dear reader) to draw your own conclusions.

I may also try swapping the drive electronics with the original drive, if feeling brave.

It may be that my 596 is more broken than I thought - that the core electronics can no longer play DVDs, nothing to do with the DVD drive.

In truth I'm fairly happy with being able to play CDs again - but DVDs would be nice!

-Ed


SB Touch, 596, 551, Monitor Audio Silver 9is,
SB Touch, Arcam DV79, Arcam AVR350, A500s
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#223652 - 2014-11-09 02:53 Re: 596, 598 DSL-720 drives from China [Re: Ed Phipps]
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Ed

I believe there is a separate laser to read DVD vs CD so failure to read one and not the other suggests a faulty drive I would fear.

12 year old NOS may contribute to this? I hope not, I have a DSL-720 stored away that I bought several years ago for future security of my various M players that use this unit.

Good luck.

Richard

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