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#163825 - 2012-03-31 01:34 Re: To Max the Evoque or not [Re: Jlowdo]
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Originally Posted By: Jlowdo
I sense a bitter Land Rover experience Ian. I hope they prove you wrong, at least we'll look cool waiting for the AA to turn up.

Yes. My Defender was the worst vehicle that I ever owned. In the end a critical structural component rusted - not bad for an aluminium vehicle. They obviously had not heard about galvanic corrosion and how seals are meant to keep water out and not in. Best bit was the Japanese engine that someone had fitted to replace the petrol lump.

I do hope that LR have sorted their reliability. Apparently Evoque is being built in the Jaguar plant which is a good sign. About 15 years ago I had the pleasure of spending time with Gerry Mcgovern and spoke at length about cars and design. Very inspiring. Even though the Evoque design is not my cup of tea it is clearly appealing to first time LR owners. I hope for the sake of British brands that LR have finally sorted their reliability issue.


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#163872 - 2012-04-01 02:20 Re: To Max the Evoque or not [Re: Ian]
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I have to admit that I once owned an Overfinch 630R. Fabulous car when it was working, but if you'd painted it yellow it couldn't have been a bigger lemon. Not LR's fault mind you.

When I look back though, it makes me wonder whether offroad cars this size ought to built to go faster at all.

Unless you genuinely need to go offroad (which I did) you simply don't need a 4x4, let alone one this size.


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#164079 - 2012-04-03 13:43 Re: To Max the Evoque or not [Re: dpstjp]
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Originally Posted By: dpstjp
Unless you genuinely need to go offroad (which I did) you simply don't need a 4x4, let alone one this size.

Hardly anyone buys a 4x4 because they need one though, do they? They buy one due to certain lifestyle choices and not wanting to drive a MPV in most cases.
Most 4x4s (including LR Defenders etc.) aren't even that good in the sort of conditions that people buy them 'just in case' of.


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#164655 - 2012-04-10 09:58 Re: To Max the Evoque or not [Re: Mudge]
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I am interested in the choice available. Meridian Trifield wins hands down over a Panasonic roof (dylsexia problem) . The "drive in movie" however "with reclining seats" takes on a whole new meaning, with both options.


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#188723 - 2013-04-06 00:58 Re: To Max the Evoque or not [Re: dpstjp]
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Originally Posted By: dpstjp
When I look back though, it makes me wonder whether offroad cars this size ought to built to go faster at
I had a Cayenne Turbo couple years ago. That was meant to go fast. It had its share of technology glitches, but never left me stranded. I think the biggest issue was having to change tires in the winter/summer. It was a beast of a truck and frighteningly quick for its mass. However, it handled incredible well and was no slouch on the brakes.

Originally Posted By: dpstjp
Unless you genuinely need to go offroad (which I did) you simply don't need a 4x4, let alone one this size.
I don't think it's about going off road, it's more about protection from the 17 year old in their Subaru WRX, doing 100 in a 25 zone, into your rear end. Further, given the recent mild winters in the UK... I am sure there are plenty of small call owners who were longing for a 4x4 this winter!


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#188737 - 2013-04-06 05:52 Re: To Max the Evoque or not [Re: Yetis]
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Has anyone heard the M system in a Jag yet?

The XF Shooting-brake looks very tempting.


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#189030 - 2013-04-12 15:31 Re: To Max the Evoque or not [Re: Jetblast]
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I was very fortunate to visit Meridian recently and was able to hear the system in the Vogue and the Jag back to back (In the Meridian carpark). I have to say both were fantastic sounding but if push comes to shove I would say that the Jag sounded better (slightly). Maybe cabin acoustics....??


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#189032 - 2013-04-12 16:25 Re: To Max the Evoque or not [Re: Parky43007]
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Hi Parky43007

I was lucky to have had the same demonstration and I agree, the Jaguar sounded better to my ears, the Range Rover was very nice though, although I heard it used 3 gallons just ticking over during the demo!!

Cheers

Russ


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