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#132698 - 2010-12-24 15:46 Re: MC200 - what you've been waiting for [Re: Avii]
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Originally Posted By: Avii
Originally Posted By: Ronnie

Hi Avii
That's exactly what I've been using lately.....how do you like it??


I'm still in the process of evaluation but my initial thoughts are very positive. I've been comparing using different interface types and source devices. I perceive a difference compared to music via the HD621 and direct to DSP rather than routed through the SSP (with MRC bypass and +3dB tweak).

I'd like to compare with Sooloos to determine if I perceive any difference.

Avi

In Kal Rubinson's review of the SB Touch in Stereophile he mentioned a mod to the Touch that turned the USB input into an output. He then ran the USB to an Ayre player with a USB input with apparently superb results. I wonder if the Halide cable out of a modded Touch into a DSP speaker would yield similiar results. Any thoughts?

Ken


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Edited by Carl; 2010-12-24 16:25. Edit Reason: Sorted out Quote Box - I do wish folk would check posts after submitting.
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#132702 - 2010-12-24 16:35 Re: MC200 - what you've been waiting for [Re: Phase3Southampton]
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Hi Ken,

Is this the cable / converter you are referring to?

Halide-Design-Bridge-Review

It an interesting idea, but I don't see how a modified touch with USB audio out converted back to SPDIF would be more optimal that just using the standard SPDIF out on the touch, which we know has very low jitter.

Regards,
Carl


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#132703 - 2010-12-24 16:39 Re: MC200 - what you've been waiting for [Re: Phase3Southampton]
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#132704 - 2010-12-24 17:03 Re: MC200 - what you've been waiting for [Re: Carl]
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Originally Posted By: Carl
Hi Ken,

Is this the cable / converter you are referring to?

Halide-Design-Bridge-Review

It an interesting idea, but I don't see how a modified touch with USB audio out converted back to SPDIF would be more optimal that just using the standard SPDIF out on the touch, which we know has very low jitter.

Regards,
Carl

That's it and I don't understand either but in Kal's review he was very impressed with the Touch mod. I guess the key is how much the Halide gives up, if anything, compared to a straight USB connection.

Ken




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#132715 - 2010-12-24 21:23 Re: MC200 - what you've been waiting for [Re: Phase3Southampton]
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Ronnie you pretty much sum up my issues but while I have in excess of 500GB Im not that much over it. However, I would want future storage as well as the higher res capacity. I wish Meridian would give the option for a larger drive. I will say this: I have resisted Sooloos so far, but this product brings me that much closer- if it featured a larger hd I would be pulling the trigger.


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#132724 - 2010-12-25 06:14 Re: MC200 - what you've been waiting for [Re: Phase3Southampton]
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500GB seems a little tight, I just bought two eco media Samsung drives and paid 140 for 4TB, How much is the unit?
Surely they could put 2TB in and just charge another 50, or even charge another 100 and make a profit from the bigger drive.


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#132727 - 2010-12-25 06:58 Re: MC200 - what you've been waiting for [Re: JerryL]
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Originally Posted By: JerryL
Ronnie you pretty much sum up my issues but while I have in excess of 500GB Im not that much over it. However, I would want future storage as well as the higher res capacity. I wish Meridian would give the option for a larger drive. I will say this: I have resisted Sooloos so far, but this product brings me that much closer- if it featured a larger hd I would be pulling the trigger.

By the time I've got around to filling the 500Gb, I would have earnt another 2000UKP to buy a second MC200 to give me a second zone and double the storage.


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#132731 - 2010-12-25 07:21 Re: MC200 - what you've been waiting for [Re: Phase3Southampton]
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Haha, that is one way of looking at it I guess, however rather than having to do another weeks work wouldn't you prefer to pay another half days wages and have it already??


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#132736 - 2010-12-25 09:43 Re: MC200 - what you've been waiting for [Re: Phase3Southampton]
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Can you link these? I also note there are "expansion" ports on the back that look like they would fit USB....


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Jerry
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#132740 - 2010-12-25 10:49 Re: MC200 - what you've been waiting for [Re: Carl]
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Originally Posted By: Carl
Hi Ken,

Is this the cable / converter you are referring to?

Halide-Design-Bridge-Review

It an interesting idea, but I don't see how a modified touch with USB audio out converted back to SPDIF would be more optimal that just using the standard SPDIF out on the touch, which we know has very low jitter.

Regards,
Carl
Yup. I think we have audiphile predilection to add boxes in the hope that they will add performance but I think it is more likely counterproductive.

Kal


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#132741 - 2010-12-25 10:52 Re: MC200 - what you've been waiting for [Re: Kswanson]
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Originally Posted By: Kswanson
Originally Posted By: Carl
Hi Ken,

Is this the cable / converter you are referring to?

Halide-Design-Bridge-Review

It an interesting idea, but I don't see how a modified touch with USB audio out converted back to SPDIF would be more optimal that just using the standard SPDIF out on the touch, which we know has very low jitter.

Regards,
Carl

That's it and I don't understand either but in Kal's review he was very impressed with the Touch mod. I guess the key is how much the Halide gives up, if anything, compared to a straight USB connection.

Ken


Another consideration is how much any of that adds or subtracts from a direct SPDIF output to a good processor? When I compared the USB output from the SBT to the Ayre, it was routed through an analog preamp and was compared to the Classe SST's SPDIF input. So, it was a comparison of those, not a global rule that the USB output was preferable.


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#132752 - 2010-12-25 13:57 Re: MC200 - what you've been waiting for [Re: Phase3Southampton]
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Good point. In my case I'm running the Touch's SPDIF output directly into a pair of DSP speakers so for a two channel DSP setup it's probably pretty close to as good as it's going to get. Sounds great too!

Ken


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