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#309052 2023-02-25 17:52
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A question for those tecchi sorts.

If I feed a F80 with an analogue feed, does it convert it to digital, tweak it, then back to analogue again, or does it just amplify it in analogue form?

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William


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My "guess" is that it will will be converted into digital ASAP.

I use F80 Optical in from 218/210 combo. My partner did not want to part with our yellow Ferrari emblemed F80. So I put the M stack near with high quality optical connection.

We were both on the HH meetup with Bob where they proudly presented the F80 and played voices and piano. It has a timeless design so I understand it will probably stay with us for a long time.


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It does indeed convert all analogue signals to digital - from memory I think it uses a 24 bit 48kHz convertor.

It makes sense as you obviously can't apply any DSP to an analogue signal unless it is converted first.


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But the digital engine is 24/96 right? I send in that via 3.5mm optical IN jack.


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Thanks for your replies. Very helpful.

Crion, whilst I would normally aim to keep the feeds digital until the last stage, I can’t see an optical “out” from either the 218, which I have, or the 210, which I don’t have. There are Co-ax outputs.

Were there earlier versions of either with an optical output? Or am I misunderstanding something?

By the way, is the 210 compatible with Apple AirPlay?

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Originally Posted by WilliamS
By the way, is the 210 compatible with Apple AirPlay?
No, it's is not compatible with Airplay.


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Sorry, I forgot to mention that I use IFI S/PDIF Ipurifier 2 to convert between coaxial and high-quality optical inputs/outputs. It reclocks and dejitters as well.


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In 2009 VirusKiller posted a short summary of Q&A sessions with Bob Stuart at Cedia and CES about the F80. Playback is at 48 kHz according to this:

Cedia & CES Q&As

I too send 24/96 to my F80s optical input without any problem so, presumably, the signal just gets down-sampled.


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