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Hi,

218 is a different type of product, so isn’t included in the configuration program.

How do you get the MQA signal from Tidal into the 218?

I’m not familiar with Roon inputs as my system is Sooloos based with MQA from Tidal. The 218 acts as a Sooloos endpoint connected via the ethernet port. I’ve also used the digital input on the 218 to connect a CD player for my couple of MQA CDs.

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Thanks, Gianni. I misunderstood.

Will this setup work in surround controlled by the G65?

// Frode.


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MQA is sourced from Tidal to Roon to 218.


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Hi,

I think there has been a bit of confusion with regard to what you were intending to do, but yes, I agree with Gianni, the G65 should go into the 218 via a SL connection with all of the inputs on the 218 (other than the SLS input) set to Speakerlink.

How do you get Roon into the 218?

Brian

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Originally Posted by Frode
Will this setup work in surround controlled by the G65?
By "controlled" I assume you mean the G65 is set to Controller and is issuing commands over Meridian comms/SL?

I do not know but would like to find out. The control setup is what I cannot figure out.



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Gianni,

Sent you a pm, so not to confuse this discussion.

Brian


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OK, one step back I think.

What I want:
2 channel, with MQA if possible. 5.1 with G65 capabilities incl. Calibration, Bass Management, Room Correction, MCP, etc.

Gear:
As my signature. MC200 is backup, Tidal Hi-Fi, RoonServer on Mac Pro (wired).

Current wireing:
All speakers connected to G65. SL Slave from 218 to SL In2 on G65, assigned to CD.

Cuurent status:
It`s working fine, except no MQA light on 218 and volume on Roon Remote is not working.

Comment/question to Gianni proposal:
When connecting mains directly 218, would I not loose playing 5.1 with G65 features? If no, is G65 (or 218) merging speakers from G65 and 218?

I this clarifies.

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Hi,

1. What you want is possible with the method that Gianni is suggesting.

2. Not sure why you don’t have a MQA light but you might have a conflict with CD and SLS on your 218 configuration or a problem somewhere earlier in the settings.

3. While current wiring is fine, you lose MQA quality by feeding MQA into G65. Better to minimise quality loss by going from MQA ethernet > 218 > analog output > speakers.

4. Wire all of your other sources into the G65. The G65 master SL L&R output should then be connected to the SL input on the 218. Set up the 218 so that all sources (with the exception of the ethernet connection) are assigned to the SL input. Connect the analog outputs on the 218 to your L & R speakers. The other speakers all remain connected to the G65. I don’t know if it’s fully necessary, but make another SL connection back from the 218 (SL output) to one of the SL speaker outputs on the G65. That ensures comms are returned to the processor from the 218. When you want to play 5.1 channel material, the centre and surround speakers are fed directly from the G65 and the L&R go through the 218. Since you now have additional processing time caused by the 218, you’ll have to adjust the delay times for the main speakers to compensate. You’ll also have to adjust for any additional delay caused by the processing going on in your non-Meridian speakers as well.

Google search for “Meridian 218 Zone Controller announced”, also “G65 with a 218 - only front L/R working” and “Meridian 218: Set up tips and tricks”

Brian

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Thanks Brian,

I will try it tomorrow.

// Frode


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Hi,

218 analogue is only unbalanced while Kii Three analogue In is balanced. I guess I’ll settle for the 218 as source for G65 for now. And see if I can get the 218 MQA-light.

I changed 218 to SLS, still no MQA-light.

Isn`t it strange that the line "MQA Core Decoder" in the Signal Path only show when Device setting is "No MQA Support". Changing that setting to "Decoder", "Renderer" or "Decoder and Renderer" it desappears.

Wireing from 218 to G65 is: SL Out on 218 to SL In2 on G65.

Cheers,
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Hi,
Originally Posted by Frode
Isn`t it strange that the line "MQA Core Decoder" in the Signal Path only show when Device setting is "No MQA Support". Changing that setting to "Decoder", "Renderer" or "Decoder and Renderer" it desappears.
Are you sure about "Renderer"? As that’s not my experience, for me Roon will now perform the MQA decoding.

For the other two : "Decoder", or "Decoder and Renderer” then it’s correct ... as Roon will now defer the MQA decoding to the DAC.


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Carl,

I restested, and got the same result as you. When Device setting is "Renderer", it says "MQA core decoding" in Signal Path.

What is the correct Device setting?

Do you have any idea why the the MQA light on the 218 is not on?

Cheers,
Frode


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