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I just did my first upgrade to my Home Theater in like 8 years.

I just got a 65" LG OLED C6 TV (replaces 50" KURO Elite). So I now have the bug to brings some things up to spec.

My Clux also recently died.

So what are my options?

If I use Meridian's unit (HD621) I doubt it would handle the 4K HDMI.
Has this been updated?

My understanding is there is an Oppo coming out (this fall) that has two HDMI outputs so as long as Meridian could handle extract the Audio it might work.

But if one was to get the Oppo, would it make sense to just have it modified and Tap the outputs before the 7.1 DACs.

I must say the PS3 has been an absolute flawless bargain and I really would prefer get the new PS4.5 due out this fall. But I don't know what the options will be with that and I doubt it will have 7.1 analog outputs. Not sure if it will have 2 HDMI's.

Sorry if this is a duplicate topic.

The TV also has HDMI Out, probably for Audio for the formats it can stream directly.


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Look at the Oppo now. 2 HDMI in and out. It up-converts video to 4K so I assume it will play the few? 4K releases available.

You can have it modified to Output multichannel Hi-Rez audio to a processor. Google jvbdigital.com. They just got in a fresh batch of boards. I am told by Marc Koval they are easy to install. Probably a YouTube video on it.


James
NC1: 861v8, ID41, 218, 251(to outdoors), DSP8000SEUG, 7200SEC, DSP520 rears, Apple TV, DirecTV, Oppo BD103, QNAP251, Roon
NC2-M7005, Triad Silver Speakers,Acurus Amps

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Hi George,

Welcome back. Mark H posted this in another thread:
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Now that we have UHD players, I'm sad to say that even though I could pass other 4K sources I have been unable to pass UHD discs. Fortunately the [panasonic] player has two HDMI outputs and so the video goes direct to the video chain and the audio goes through the HD621.
Interesting thread here on HD621 Does it support 4K?

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Kaleidescape promised LPCM decoding by their new Statos player when it first launched. It also does 4K. Not sure about timing on LPCM.


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I was speaking with the folks at Kaleidescape last week and there is still no timeline for LPCM decoding in player. It will happen, but my guess is not this year. It is low priority as most systems other than M. can decode bitstream.

Also, current Oppo is blu-ray, not 4K capable. It will up convert to 4K but not play it. Hopefully they will introduce a UHD player later this year as someone mentioned earlier.

Hopefully, we also get an update to the HD621 to handle 4K. I suspect if it does happen it will end up being a new product or significant hardware upgrade. Let's also keep our fingers crossed that the next version of 861 will be everything we hope it will be.

Happy long weekend to my fellow Hitchhikers in USA and Canada.

Wayne


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I think the 4k options now are:

1. Buy a 4k player (e.g Panasonic)which has 2 HDMI outputs and which combined should allow a 4k image with lossless audio via the HD621.

2. Buy one of the new Lumagen 4k video processors (which also has 2 HDMI ouputs) and will do a good job of upscaling standard BRs (expensive option). There aren't many UHD BRs out there so you won't be missing much in the way of native 4k replay.

3. Buy 1 and 2 (even more expensive).

4. Wait.


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Cliff,

Isn't an important part of #1, that the player decodes to LPCM? Finding a player with two outputs doesn't seem that hard? The lossless decoding continues to be the devil in the detail for M surround products?



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Good point. I thought they all did

The Panny seems to if I'm reading the spec correctly (bistream and decode to output 2)



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My read is that it is silent about outputting PCM. The notes re hi Rez audio state it requires HDMI to output Bluray Hi def audio


James
NC1: 861v8, ID41, 218, 251(to outdoors), DSP8000SEUG, 7200SEC, DSP520 rears, Apple TV, DirecTV, Oppo BD103, QNAP251, Roon
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Panasonic DMP-UB900 manual page 30 and 41

HDMI audio output options: bitstream or 7.1 channels of PCM



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Thanks Cliff. I just read the summary spec page and the asterisk explanation.


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FL1: 861v4, ID40, 218, MS200, DSP8000SEs, DSP7200SEC, DSP5000s, DirecTv, AppleTv, OppoBD103, QNAP469, Roon
FL2: Marantz 7005, 251, M60s,60C,33s, Oppo BDP-93,MS200, Roon
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The Panny definitely outputs PCM into the HD621, as that's how I'm using it. The manual is a bit confusing and had me fiddling with settings to get it to work. But work, it does.

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