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Well I hope it comes soon as well because I have now arrived at the conclusion that the narrow 'monolistic' Trifield soundfield produced by my G61SL is inferior to 2 channel 'stereo'. Very annoying that a relatively new processor is still deficient. So for now I have reverted to stereo which gives an impressive image and Trifield is presently redundant  Rod Thats an interesting observation, Rod. I have to say that, for me, Trifield is still way ahead of vanilla stereo even without the 'width' fix.
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Thats an interesting observation, Rod. I have to say that, for me, Trifield is still way ahead of vanilla stereo even without the 'width' fix. +1
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I agree with Rodders that Trifield is too center heavy, so a working width parameter would be very helpful.
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+1 Evdberg Centre is too much for me also as a default setting. The only thing to tame it when width doesn't work is level but that is not ideal.
Happy to confirm that it does work on the 861v6. An the difference is huge....confirms what my memory of it always was. Is not a subtle difference.
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Nick Thanks for the confirmation that's back working on the 86v6
All the more strange then that it's still not working on Rod's G61SL???
FWIW, I also don't like what Trifield does on about 70% of my CD's and as a result stopped using it years ago on those CD's. And that was when using Three identical Vertical front speakers
Cabled direct to D2 on the Front Pair instead
Will be interesting to see if it gets back to my memory of using Trifield on a 568 many years ago
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Try just lowering center a few DB in the Trifield preset. It has a similar effect as a working width.
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Try just lowering center a few DB in the Trifield preset. It has a similar effect as a working width. But if you do this do you not also reduce the center volume with the TV input so it is harder for an old guy like me to hear the voices in the midst of the car chases?
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Playing with center Depth and level etc is critical to fine tune Trifield IMHO. You will find a setting where it just Pops in place and you never go back. Just my experiance with my kit. Chris 
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Try just lowering center a few DB in the Trifield preset. It has a similar effect as a working width. I do not think that is really the same. The width control determines the amount of 'surround signal' (out-of-phase signal, L-R from the original signal) is mixed into the left and right speaker signal. Lowering the volume of the center speaker changes the amount of 'main signal' (in-phase signal, L+R of the input signal) in the center. Although the total signal balance is similar, the signal balance between the speakers is quite different.
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Playing with center Depth and level etc is critical to fine tune Trifield IMHO. You will find a setting where it just Pops in place and you never go back. Just my experiance with my kit. Chris  As far as I can see I can only change these things through the Config programme. True, or have I missed something?
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Try just lowering center a few DB in the Trifield preset. It has a similar effect as a working width. I do not think that is really the same. The width control determines the amount of 'surround signal' (out-of-phase signal, L-R from the original signal) is mixed into the left and right speaker signal. Lowering the volume of the center speaker changes the amount of 'main signal' (in-phase signal, L+R of the input signal) in the center. Although the total signal balance is similar, the signal balance between the speakers is quite different. It's not the same but it can help. Try it. It only takes a bit.
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Playing with center Depth and level etc is critical to fine tune Trifield IMHO. You will find a setting where it just Pops in place and you never go back. Just my experiance with my kit. Chris  As far as I can see I can only change these things through the Config programme. True, or have I missed something? You've missed something. Function + arrow keys. Change it as you listen and you hear the effects immediately. Press Store when you are done.
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