Stacey has it right. Heres what I found re: loss of bass

I used VE because it gives an easier to measure sub channel pink noise. no decoding=no upsampling since the soundtracks are decoded in the 800 and then upsampled by the 861.

all options are set to default except the lfe on cinema mode, there its set to 0 so I can get a true sense of whats going on.

what I found is that with no decoding the lfe channel equalled the output of the others. with decoding the lfe needed to be +10 and the resulting sound definately seemed to still suffer a lack of bass even with the lfe set to +10 as the measurements would lead one to believe corrects whatever is going on. my guess is there was a loss of bass from the other channels.

with v4, doing the same measurement the results were much better. the tests show there is now no difference between the decoded and not decoded in the 800 soundtracks. at least in my system- the only difference I can see between Deniz and I are the speakers- but thats the results Im getting.

now, if I can bring up another nit: the chroma bug- please make it go away!

to be sure, this is now nit picking. the resulting presentation is simply spectacular.

Best regards,
Jerry
Main System: 861v6, DSP8000s in corners, DSP7000s Center and Sides, 1-9 humans.