Meridian Unplugged - Powered by MrTechGuy.co.uk Forums Discussion Meridian - Systems Official CES 2010 Announcements (no speculation please)

I understand, but i already payed 22.5K guilders (10K euro) for the unit years back.
Than the upgrades were like 2700 Euro for V2 - V3 and 700 Euro V3 - V4
Next to that 2x 850 Euro for OA13 cards, and 1100 Euro for a IA45

Total costs over the years 16200 Euro.

Normally the price for the upgrades was about the same as the increase to a new unit. That was always very good i think, i never had the idea i payed too much for upgrading. Also 2nd hand prices stayed ok.

If i would get a fully loaded modell back for the price difference between what i payed now and the new price, it would be like it always was and i would be a happy person.

But if i cannot keep using my current OA13 for the subwoofer only, the IA45 for 5.1 channel input it would simply cost me like 2200 euro more to upgrade things i already have and are happy with.

The new price does not seem to bad, 11.500 pound (around 13500 Euro)
If it contains a OE14, IE44 and IA04 by default.
Add OA18 for 1000 perhaps and the new modell would be cheaper than my old upgraded unit..

Well lets wait.
I did not even use the OE12 / AC11 and the DSP speakers yet..

Thanks Mirek
I'm already doing something very, very similar by routing the Digital Out of my Media Player thru my Video Processor and then HDMI out into my HD621

So, I suppose most of my comments are more of a generic nature in wanting to Apodize SPDIF sources in the 861

Another thing is that I had compared SPDIF Out of my Player thru Apodizing in the 808.2i versus SPDIF converted to HDMI thru my HD621. I did feel there was a repeatable and noticeable difference between the two

This echos what Meridian themselves have been saying as well as what Frank's says about "various product's architecture and MIPS dictating the implementation of Apodizing etc."

Mirek
Out of curiosity,

a) I assume you are using the Digital Coax out of the Sooloos??

b) Does the Gefen Converter generate a Blank Video Stream carrier for the Audio Stream, or are you inputting another source into the DVI Input of that Converter??

Thanks

Well VK, you said you thought that Meridian should put some mileage between the 860 and G68!

What you didn't say was that they should make the G61R and G68 a bitter disappointment in order to achieve that (no appodising and no 8 channels).

Thanks for the posts, Frank.

You did not mention the F80. Does this mean it has also been discontinued (a lot of dealers have been selling off ex-dem).

We'll see how things pan out, but I don't feel that denying the G6x apodizing and eight channel inputs is the way to do it. This will definitely lose Meridian sales from those who can afford the G6x, but not the 861. Silly.

I agree: a staggering blow.

Regarding all new 861 - people should see it as a positive not a negative. You don't suddenly re design the architecture after 4 previous versions if it's going to be your swansong.

The implications of this have become clearer with your later post, Frank (for which may thanks).

Meridian's damascene moment is a bit strange. Does this mean they will be abandoning the 810? And for many people they were the company that adapted a Marantz CD player to make it truly hi-fi. And it was this that made their reputation which then enabled them to sell DSPs. So they only produce processors and 621s etc in order to be able to sell DSPs?

They may be able to keep it digital from the studio to the speaker, their proud boast, but increasingly not with Meridian equipment!

[When Paul had a similar moment he was told not to kick against the pricks. I should not have said that but could not resist. Sorry. Must be light-headed from all the news: kind of de-mob happy?]

What I cannot fathon is why the push of apodizing into the speakers, if I am understanding it correctly this only comes into play if the speakers are upsampling. Given upsampling is likley to happen in the processor apodizing or not) or the HD621, will the apodizing be used in the speaker. Would it not have been far more benefical to put the money and research once into the processor rather than having to pay for it in every speaker - or is this just the synical marketing plan. Back to HS=Y/N debate.

regards

A.Dent

Doesn't DSP stand for "Digital Sound Processing"?

More to the point, David, is that we were told that, optimally, apodising should be carried out at the beginning not the end of the chain.

I think it has been included in every speaker because it is part of their upsampling. But this does not, of course excuse the omission from the G61R and G68.