I don't think there will be any debate between 861 vs G68 now. Finally 861 can really differentiate itself once again.

Very dissappointed G68 won't get apodizing, so much for good things will come for those who wait. Who was it that said that? Bob? No way even if I had an 861 would I pay $20K-ish to upgrade it, that's out my budget.

It wouldn't be so bad if the HD621 had SPDIF input. It's a kludge to get two channel through an HD621 and who knows how much HDMI harms things. Who was it that said HDMI is very harmful? Bob?

So much for the 5500 getting upgraded. Who was it that said that? Bob?

- Fiddler (IMHO)

If you think listening to music is fun, try learning an instrument.
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