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FYI - I contacted M about this a week or so ago as it had been subject to a discussion at HH2. I am pretty sure they're looking into it again.
Rgds,
Nick
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I played around with Trifield also, width=0 and width=1.5 did nothing. I can also configure rear speakers on Trifield, it was also useless, can hardly hear anything from the rear speakers on Trifield. As we say in engineering, FAD (Functions As Designed). This applies to old and new firmware. Rears are very mild in Trifield but they are quite noticable in what they do. The Width and Depth have no effect on rears and are not supposed too. The parameters for the rears do work in current firmware. One way to compare them is to configure you setup with no center (for testing only). Then toggle between Direct and Trifield and you'll hear what Trifield does with rears. If you still hear no effect then you have a problem with your setup.
- Fiddler (IMHO)
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Sorry to resurrect this again but I was thinking about how Meridian respond to questions (prompted a bit by the support thread).
At HH2 our query about the Trifield width not working was met by a theoretical resonse that "nothing's changed". IMO, this demonstrates the mindset of Meridian. They are scientists, not engineers, and simply went back to the underlying theory to answer our question.
What you or I might have done is to go into the demo room, listen to the reported effect (or lack of it) and then look into any issues arising.
Does anyone else find this interesting?
Malcolm
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I think it's rather embarrassing for M. Meridian is a technically accomplished company with many talented and confident engineers. At times, that confidence appears to border on arrogance, even if that is only my perception.
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All good things come to he who waits....just had news from St. Des .....We were wrong. Width does not work in 568.2/G68/861. Our normally infallible R&D department was mistaken when they reported finding no problem. They are unsure of how this happened; chief suspect is that the code in the products tested was not quite the "release" version they thought it was.
Naturally, this is rather embarrassing for us, but we want to be open about it. Ten out of ten to the Hitchhikers who stuck to their guns - we appreciate how infuriating it must have been for them having us tell them their ears are fooling them!
Thankfully, it is relatively easy to fix. The code is modular, so we can drop the correct version into the relevant product firmware bundles. We then just need to adapt the MFP files to encompass the new files and we'll be ready to put the firmware through the (hopefully watertight!) testing process.
In summary, we would like to apologise for the mistake and especially for failing to take any further action following the reassertion from the group. Please treat this as official notification of our acceptance of the error.
Best regards, Des. Good news I'd say.
Rgds,
Nick
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Result, and credit to M for the admission.
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...chief suspect is that the code in the products tested was not quite the "release" version they thought it was... That bought back some fond memories of my former life. Presumably a Friday afternoon deadline 
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I second that and thanks to Nick for posting it on the forum so promptly. All we need now is the apodizing modules Regards, Carl.
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Exactly, whilst you are there, hows about dropping in Apodizing filters into my 568.2MM?
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Great news - something else to play with soon!
Thanks to Nick and Des (and team).
Cheers,
Ed.
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Very good. I look forward to the firmware update.
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Excellent. Top marks to M for their candour and committment to fix it, and Nick for his ambassadorial role!
Cheers
George
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