For MP3 players, I mean portable players, they all have more or less, average preamp, not audiophile design and so on. Using the iPod classic, I attest that the sound is adequate for a portable player, but it's not audiophile, so why use lossless with that?
Are there audiophile portable players out there?
The iPod before the classic had laughable preamp, noisy and crappy...
The classic is only decent, I don't know about the newer ones though.

861v2, DSP3100, DSP3100HC