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#264297 - 2017-05-16 08:16 Re: 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink [Re: JobSeeker]
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Thanks that's good to know. Do you know if this behaviour is unique to the network connection input or would presenting a new signal from any other source cause it to then take over? e.g. pressing play on a Meridian CD player whilst listening to something else

Cheers
Tom


Main: G68J, 218 HD621, 3*5200s (2 SE L&R),DSW, 2* Reviver, 3200s,SBT, PS4, Amazon TV Fire, Dune Base 3.0, Xbox, NUC (Roon server & Kodi)
Kitchen: 561M, M33s, M1500, SBT, Chromecast
Office: A330i, G41, Explorer2,Velodyne CT120
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#264304 - 2017-05-16 10:12 Re: 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink [Re: GMT]
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I have borrowed an iPad and installed the control app. This works as expected, but because I have no SpeakerLink (since I removed the Reviver), there is no comms return to the G68 which means the source change from the 218 but not the G68. I will add the Reviver back this evening and see what happens.

As it stands, it looks like the IR option may be the simplest and most cost effective solution for me. Does anybody know what is required to get the IR working? Is it just a receiver into the back of the 218 or do I need to connect it to the G68 in some way?

Cheers
Tom


Main: G68J, 218 HD621, 3*5200s (2 SE L&R),DSW, 2* Reviver, 3200s,SBT, PS4, Amazon TV Fire, Dune Base 3.0, Xbox, NUC (Roon server & Kodi)
Kitchen: 561M, M33s, M1500, SBT, Chromecast
Office: A330i, G41, Explorer2,Velodyne CT120
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#264337 - 2017-05-17 09:57 Re: 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink [Re: GMT]
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This morning, I added the Reviver back into the system so that I could attempt to control the G68 via the 218 app. This did not work:

1) Changing sources on the app made no difference to the G68

2) Changing sources on the app did change the 218 source and this was reflected on the 5200SE display

3) Changing volume on the app did not change the volume on the 5200SE

4) Changing the volume via the MSR did change the 5200SE volume

I then turned off the G68

5) The volume change on the app still had no effect

6) The volume change on the MSR did not change the volume on the speaker


Should I be making one of the speakers a controller?

I will test this later and feedback.

Cheers
Tom


Main: G68J, 218 HD621, 3*5200s (2 SE L&R),DSW, 2* Reviver, 3200s,SBT, PS4, Amazon TV Fire, Dune Base 3.0, Xbox, NUC (Roon server & Kodi)
Kitchen: 561M, M33s, M1500, SBT, Chromecast
Office: A330i, G41, Explorer2,Velodyne CT120
F80s, M60s
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#264339 - 2017-05-17 11:15 Re: 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink [Re: GMT]
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I'm not quite sure what sequence/order your signal and comms chain is here


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#264341 - 2017-05-17 12:30 Re: 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink [Re: JobSeeker]
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At the moment I have a combination of Comms.
I will remove all legacy comms from my L & R speakers this evening and test them in a 218 5200SE set up only and then build from there.

Cheers
Tom


Main: G68J, 218 HD621, 3*5200s (2 SE L&R),DSW, 2* Reviver, 3200s,SBT, PS4, Amazon TV Fire, Dune Base 3.0, Xbox, NUC (Roon server & Kodi)
Kitchen: 561M, M33s, M1500, SBT, Chromecast
Office: A330i, G41, Explorer2,Velodyne CT120
F80s, M60s
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#264364 - 2017-05-18 15:59 Re: 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink [Re: GMT]
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I tested the 218 with the 5200SE only without any further success. I didn't type the speakers though. Also my centre speaker is the master, which means there was no master speaker in 218 2 speaker setup.

More testing this evening.


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Kitchen: 561M, M33s, M1500, SBT, Chromecast
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#264434 - 2017-05-19 11:24 Re: 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink [Re: GMT]
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Last night I typed my speakers to 2 channel and made the FL a master.

The app worked correctly and I was able to adjust the volume to it.

I then retyped my speakers to 6 and making sure the centre was now a slave and the FL was the master.

The centre is out of the loop and doesn't turn on.

If I change source with the MSR then it changes the source on the 218. If I change source on the 218, it doesn't change source on the G68.

If I change volume on the 218 then it does change the volume on the G68.

SpeakerLink appears to be bi-directional in some circumstances.

Does anyone know if SpeakerLink comms should make its way to BNC comms. i.e. if I have SpeakerLink Comms coming into a speaker should it route through the BNC out?

My next test will involve removing all legacy comms apart from one BNC between FL and centre.

Cheers
Tom


Main: G68J, 218 HD621, 3*5200s (2 SE L&R),DSW, 2* Reviver, 3200s,SBT, PS4, Amazon TV Fire, Dune Base 3.0, Xbox, NUC (Roon server & Kodi)
Kitchen: 561M, M33s, M1500, SBT, Chromecast
Office: A330i, G41, Explorer2,Velodyne CT120
F80s, M60s
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#264439 - 2017-05-19 11:58 Re: 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink [Re: GMT]
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Originally Posted By GMT
Does anyone know if SpeakerLink comms should make its way to BNC comms. i.e. if I have SpeakerLink Comms coming into a speaker should it route through the BNC out?
Hi,

I have a SL connection between my G65 (C/Sub output) and my DSP5200HCSE.

I then use the comms BNC output (on the centre speaker) to go through a BNC to DIN comms adapter to my (older) D1500 subwoofer.

All works fine.

Brian


Main: G65, MD600, MS600, 218, 598DP, HD621, DSP5200SE, DSP5200HCSE, M6 & D1500.
System 2: G91A, MS200, DSP5000 (96/24v1), DSP3300.
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#264441 - 2017-05-19 12:04 Re: 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink [Re: bxd]
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Hi Brian

Thanks for that. Makes sense. I didn't want to spend hours swapping cables if it was never going to work!

Cheers
Tom


Main: G68J, 218 HD621, 3*5200s (2 SE L&R),DSW, 2* Reviver, 3200s,SBT, PS4, Amazon TV Fire, Dune Base 3.0, Xbox, NUC (Roon server & Kodi)
Kitchen: 561M, M33s, M1500, SBT, Chromecast
Office: A330i, G41, Explorer2,Velodyne CT120
F80s, M60s
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